I think it is not a problem if this is technically doable, VoIP and VoATM
both work, but I am not sure if many companies can tolerate the availability
of the IP network when it comes to their critical voice traffic.

ATM switches will sit in a network as if they do not exist, if you do not
touch it or overload the capacity, they may not bother you for years, can a
rotuer in an IP network do that?

Kent

----- Original Message -----
From: "bbfaye" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: mpls-l2 vpn vs. vlan [7:49346]


> Kent,
> I heard equant guys managing a nice MPLS l3 vpn based on cisco's machines.
> And they offer 4 class qos and voice service to their subscriber.
> any one from equant?
>
> --
>
> >Peter,
> >
> >> To me, its LANE all
> >> over again, ie lets take a scalable, robust, intelligent technology and
> >try
> >> and bridge with it.   As far as building MANs with Spanning Tree as
your
> >> control protocol, I might suggest that it will give you a real headache
> >> from a scaling and provisioning standpoint.  You might want to find
> >someone
> >> who worked at Yipes to give you some ideas.
> >
> >I agree that STP should not be beyond the campus, anything up from better
be
> >ip based.
> >I think the original question was about how to separate vpns on lower end
> >devices,
> >either label or vlan tag, ie configuring l2vpn on many access level
devices
> >vs. configuring vlans, I guess vlans are easy to configure and manage in
> >this case.
> >For our discussion, IMHO, LANE is too complicated for the subscribers and
> >l3vpn is not easy for the providers, l2vpn is, relatively speaking,
simple
> >for both .
> >
> >>
> >> I will say that I am fully behind replacing legacy frame/atm vpn
networks
> >> with IP/MPLS networks in order to reduce the number of networks
supported
> >> by a single provider.  There are definite efficiencies to be gained
here.
> >>
> >
> >I would like to know how people are using IP/MPLS network to integrate
voice
> >and data?
> >
> >Thanks
> >Kent
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 08:12 PM 7/21/2002 +0000, bbfaye wrote:
> >> >we are handling a case of a MAN project now.
> >> >We plan to use mpls-l2 vpn to connect the business subscribers.That
means
> >we
> >> >have to place some mpls-enabled machines on the access
> >nodes(expensive...).
> >> >Another choice is using vlan.And the users' vlan are trunked to the
> >> >aggressive
> >> >nodes.I think it's not so good to do this,but not so sure about the
> >> >disadvantage.
> >> >Does anyone have experience or suggestion about using vlan and l2-mpls
> >vpn
> >> in
> >> >the man?
> >> >thanks a lot.




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