Tom Lisa wrote:
> 
> Priscilla,
> 
> I'd have to disagree with you here.  We have many, many
> programs that
> are doing well in the high schools.  We supervise 20 Local
> Acadamies
> of which 18 are high schools. 
> In fact, the Academy Program was
> originally intended just for high schools and they comprise the
> bulk of
> our acadamies.
> 
> The key, we have found, is to be selective in the students you
> allow into
> the program.  

Sure you can be selective in the students allowed into the program. Then you
get smart, well-to-do students who are probably going to go on to college
and not immediately get a job configuring routers. So, while they could have
been studying AP Math, Chemistry, etc., they have learned the file naming
convention for Cisco IOS images. Very useful thing to know as a college
student.

The program was meant to be a vocational program for students who will work
out of high school. It doesn't work for those students. They don't have the
requisite reading skills, problem-solving skills, or analytical abilities.
High school brains are not well developed, in general. In the case of the
vocational students, their brains just can't handle networking concepts in
many cases.

The small percentage of high school students that the program works for are
the smart students who will work part-time while in college and may find a
job doing networking instead of working in the dorm cafeteria. That's a
really small number of people.

At high schools where there is a shortages of resources, teachers, etc.,
Cisco Networking Academy is a waste. Instead of teaching the vocational
students file naming conventions, subnet masking, OSI, etc. etc., why not
teach them something they can actually be good at and use on the outside
right out of high school, such as tech support, hardware configuration and
repair, desktop support, etc.

Of course, your situation may be very different from what we have here in
Southern Oregon.

Priscilla

> Without that, it can indeed be a very difficult
> curriculum
> to teach at the high school level.
> 
> Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
> Community College of Southern Nevada
> Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy
> 
> 
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> > Robert D. Cluett wrote:
> > >
> > > I like this statement....
> > >
> > > "Times have changed, he said. Six years ago the technology
> was
> > > complex.
> > > Certification was important because it told an employer and
> > > customers that
> > > the certified professional could find his way around
> > > complicated networks.
> > > But now networks are easier to install and maintain.
> > > "Now they've dumbed it down to the point where a 12-year-old
> > > can install a
> > > Cisco router," Mazurek said.
> >
> > That's ridiculous, to put it bluntly. :-) The technology
> becomes more
> > complex every year.
> >
> > >
> > > Mazurek says that he pays little attention to certification
> > > when he is
> > > hiring. It is experience that matters to him.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - A 12 year old, huh?
> >
> > Hey, I have experience trying to teach Cisco Networking
> Academy at the high
> > school level. It doesn't work. Many of the students didn't
> even have the
> > reading skills to follow the materials, let alone the
> sophisticated brain
> > CPU power required to understand the concepts. Only a few of
> the math whiz
> > types even got subnet maksing, and they don't plan to install
> routers for a
> > living. They plan to be computer scientists.
> >
> > Cisco Networking Academy does work at the college level,
> though.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > >
> > >  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > From the web...just posted for dicussion fodder, I'm not
> > > making any
> > > > statements here or trying to discourage anyone...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid7_gci8434
> > > 00,00.html
> 
> 




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