It doesn't sound like it's an STP problem then. And I don't think it could
have been a portfast problem anyway, since the symptoms aren't that the
stations can't transmit after a switch reboot. The symptom is that they
can't transmit for about 15 seconds every once in a while after they have
been running for while, n'est-ce pas? Have you been able to check what the
switch port status is during that time? I think you implied that there
wasn't even a link light during that time.

What else would cause a port to swoon for 15 seconds?? 

Can you put a Sniffer on it? That's always my answer. ;-) I think you'll
want to do more than just throughput tests. Obviously the throughput is
going to suck if nothing happens for 15 seconds every so often.

There's nothing obviously wrong with your configs.... Sorry I can't think of
anything else. Please keep us posted. It would be pretty important for all
of us to know if you get better throughput doing inter-VLAN routing with the
3600 on the 100 Mbps interface than you do with the 2948G-L3 and Gig
Ethernet!?

Priscilla

Don Pezet wrote:
> 
> Priscilla and Cisco_Maniac,
> 
>       Well, I have been tinkering around with it a bit more (which is
> pretty much how I got here) and here are my findings. First, I
> went
> ahead and did a 'debug span events' on the 2948G-L3 and noticed
> no
> convergence issues... actually no events at all. A quick 'show
> span'
> returned the following:
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> Bridge group 1 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree
> protocol
>   Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f807
>   Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   We are the root of the spanning tree
>   Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
>   Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
>           hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   Timers: hello 1, topology change 0, notification 0
>   bridge aging time 300
> 
> Port 4 (FastEthernet1) of Bridge group 1 is forwarding
>    Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f807
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f807
>    Designated port is 4, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40808, received 0
> 
> ... Removed additional ports (2 - 46)
> 
> Port 50 (FastEthernet47) of Bridge group 1 is forwarding
>    Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f807
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f807
>    Designated port is 50, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40865, received 0
> 
> Port 54 (FastEthernet48.1 ISL) of Bridge group 1 is forwarding
>    Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f807
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f807
>    Designated port is 54, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40867, received 0
> 
> Port 56 (GigabitEthernet49.1 ISL) of Bridge group 1 is
> forwarding
>    Port path cost 4, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f807
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f807
>    Designated port is 56, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40874, received 5
> 
>  Bridge group 2 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree
> protocol
>   Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f836
>   Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   We are the root of the spanning tree
>   Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
>   Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
>           hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   Timers: hello 0, topology change 0, notification 0
>   bridge aging time 300
> 
> Port 55 (FastEthernet48.2 ISL) of Bridge group 2 is forwarding
>    Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f836
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f836
>    Designated port is 55, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40867, received 0
> 
> Port 57 (GigabitEthernet49.2 ISL) of Bridge group 2 is
> forwarding
>    Port path cost 4, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f836
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f836
>    Designated port is 57, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40876, received 6
> 
>  Bridge group 10 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree
> protocol
>   Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f907
>   Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   We are the root of the spanning tree
>   Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
>   Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
>           hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   Timers: hello 1, topology change 0, notification 0
>   bridge aging time 300
> 
> Port 58 (GigabitEthernet49.10 ISL) of Bridge group 10 is
> forwarding
>    Port path cost 4, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f907
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0001.c779.f907
>    Designated port is 58, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40874, received 4
> 
>  Bridge group 20 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree
> protocol
>   Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2af8
>   Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   We are the root of the spanning tree
>   Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
>   Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
>           hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   Timers: hello 0, topology change 0, notification 0
>   bridge aging time 300
> 
> Port 59 (GigabitEthernet49.20 ISL) of Bridge group 20 is
> forwarding
>    Port path cost 4, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2af8
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2af8
>    Designated port is 59, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40874, received 3
> 
>  Bridge group 30 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree
> protocol
>   Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b00
>   Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   We are the root of the spanning tree
>   Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
>   Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
>           hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   Timers: hello 0, topology change 0, notification 0
>   bridge aging time 300
> 
> Port 60 (GigabitEthernet49.30 ISL) of Bridge group 30 is
> forwarding
>    Port path cost 4, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b00
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b00
>    Designated port is 60, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40874, received 4
> 
>  Bridge group 40 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree
> protocol
>   Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b04
>   Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   We are the root of the spanning tree
>   Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
>   Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
>           hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   Timers: hello 1, topology change 0, notification 0
>   bridge aging time 300
> 
> Port 61 (GigabitEthernet49.40 ISL) of Bridge group 40 is
> forwarding
>    Port path cost 4, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b04
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b04
>    Designated port is 61, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40875, received 4
> 
>  Bridge group 50 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree
> protocol
>   Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b0c
>   Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   We are the root of the spanning tree
>   Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
>   Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
>           hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   Timers: hello 1, topology change 0, notification 0
>   bridge aging time 300
> 
> Port 62 (GigabitEthernet49.50 ISL) of Bridge group 50 is
> forwarding
>    Port path cost 4, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b0c
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b0c
>    Designated port is 62, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40875, received 4
> 
>  Bridge group 60 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree
> protocol
>   Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b10
>   Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   We are the root of the spanning tree
>   Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
>   Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
>           hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   Timers: hello 1, topology change 0, notification 0
>   bridge aging time 300
> 
> Port 63 (GigabitEthernet49.60 ISL) of Bridge group 60 is
> forwarding
>    Port path cost 4, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b10
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b10
>    Designated port is 63, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40875, received 3
> 
>  Bridge group 70 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree
> protocol
>   Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b18
>   Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   We are the root of the spanning tree
>   Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
>   Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
>           hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   Timers: hello 0, topology change 0, notification 0
>   bridge aging time 300
> 
> Port 64 (GigabitEthernet49.70 ISL) of Bridge group 70 is
> forwarding
>    Port path cost 4, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b18
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b18
>    Designated port is 64, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40875, received 4
> 
>  Bridge group 80 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree
> protocol
>   Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b1c
>   Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   We are the root of the spanning tree
>   Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
>   Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
>           hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
>   Timers: hello 0, topology change 0, notification 0
>   bridge aging time 300
> 
> Port 65 (GigabitEthernet49.80 ISL) of Bridge group 80 is
> forwarding
>    Port path cost 4, Port priority 128
>    Designated root has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b1c
>    Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0000.0c97.2b1c
>    Designated port is 65, path cost 0
>    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
>    BPDU: sent 40876, received 4
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>       The only interface on the 2948G-L3 that should be receiving any
> STP updates would be G49 and its subinterfaces, as that is the
> ISL trunk
> to the 3548XL stack. I see a few scattered updates probably
> from routing
> STP maintenance or from power outages over the weekend (the
> UPSs tapped
> out at different intervals, always nice) but nothing unusual.
> Certainly
> not enough to mirror the connection loss interval of the
> workstations.
> 
>       Anyhow, so I started thinking along the lines as Cisco_Maniac
> about enabling portfast and just seeing what happens, but the
> 2948G-L3
> uses a Router's IOS and so it doesn't support portfast as far
> as I can
> tell. Anyone familiar, off hand, with how to do portfast on the
> 2948G-L3? CCO was unhelpful (or more likely my searching
> abilities).
> 
>       On the performance issue, I'll be running bandwidth tests
> between stations on separate VLANs today to see exactlly what
> throughput
> I am able to get while being routed by the 2948G-L3 today. If
> it is
> actually performing worse than the 3620 when it was bottle
> necking I may
> just move the network back to the old configurations. We'll see
> what
> happens and I'll post the results.
> 
> As always, thanks for your help,
> 
> Don Pezet
> Enterprise Technology Solutions
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (352) 248-1010
>  
> On 12 Aug 2002 08:39:20 -0000, in groupstudy.cisco you wrote:
> 
> >If that is the case Priscilla, then one might as well enable
> Port-Fast
> >on a those ports and observe for a few days. If the switch
> activity
> >stabilizes then it is surely a STP re-convergence problem. Am
> I on
> >track? Chaoo, Cisco_Maniac
> >""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> You say that the stations connected to the 2948G-L3 stop
> transmitting
> 
> >> for
> >15
> >> seconds. Could the Spanning Tree be reconverging for some
> reason?
> >> Since you're doing IRB with both bridging and routing,
> presumably STP
> 
> >> is running and 15 seconds sticks out as the Forward Delay
> timer used
> >> by STP. It's
> >also
> >> the timer for aging the bridging table when BPDUs arrive
> with the
> >> Topology Change Flag set.
> >>
> >> I can't see why the change you made would cause a problem,
> but maybe
> >> it
> >did
> >> for some reason or maybe it caused you to hit a bug. You may
> want to
> >> try "debug span events" or the equivalent if that doesn't
> work on a
> >> 2948G-L3.
> >If
> >> debug is too risky, "show spantree" might give you some
> hints as to
> >> when
> >the
> >> last topology change occured.
> >>
> >> It's just a guess but that 15 seconds sure sticks out as a
> possible
> >> clue that something is up with Spanning Tree.
> >>
> >> Hopefully somebody else will have ideas too!
> >>
> >> Priscilla
> 
> 




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