Thanks for the ideas. I did try some of those things. I didn't know that you
could tell if a device was a Frame Relay switch or router based on whether
it sets the DE bit, though? And how would I know if the frame arrived with
the DE bit set??

This was on a virtual lab. I didn't have access to the FR switch. I agree
with you that it was acting funny.

If I have time I'll go back and do some more testing, but I can't promise
that I will have time. Thank-you very much for your inteest in the problem
and your suggestions, though.

Priscila

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi Priscilla
> 
> Can you put debug ip icmp in both R1 and R3 routers? or better
> debug ip
> packet detail. This is for checking if R3 is really sending six
> icmp ttl
> exceeded when traceroute is executed.
> 
> Also, you can use ping with record option set instead
> traceroute to see the
> path.
> 
> I'm suspecting that frame-relay switch is not configured with
> frame-relay
> switching, but this introduce several issues about ospf. Can
> you check with
> show ip ospf database that you have only three routers.? Also
> you can check
> if frame-relay switch router is really working as a switch
> frame-relay
> sending traffic from R1 marked with DE. If this arrive to R3
> without DE mean
> that frame-relay switch is really routing ip traffic instead of
> switching
> frames. The same test must be done between R2 and R3
> 
> Another test should be send  pings from 172.16.1.1 to
> 172.16.2.2 with ttl
> set to 1, 2 and 3. Debug ip packet detail in all routers must
> help you to
> identified what is wrong
> 
> Is cdp active ? If yes, can you check neighbours of R3? You
> must see only R1
> and R3 is router acting as fr-switch is working properly.
> 
> 
> Please, could you update me with result of this issue ? I'm
> very interesting
> whit it.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rafa
> 
> 
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el: lunes 19 de agosto de 2002 20:27
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto: RE: Traceroute IP displays twice (previous post by Pri
> [7:51633]
> 
> 
> Hi Mark, etc.
> 
> I never got a satisfactory explanation for my results with
> Trace Route. In
> my case, a particular router was claiming to be the first hop
> and the second
> hop. That's different from what we're seeing in the current
> question, where
> two different routers are claiming to be the first hop (due to
> load
> balancing).
> 
> Here are the syptoms:
> 
> r1#trace 172.16.2.2
> 
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Tracing the route to 172.16.2.2
> 
>    1 172.16.1.3 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>    2 172.16.1.3 12 msec 8 msec 8 msec
>    3 172.16.2.2 24 msec 20 msec 20 msec
> 
> It's a frame-relay hub-and-spoke topology. I'm on one spoke
> trying to trace
> to another spoke through the hub. The trace succeeds. The
> network is
> working, but what's with the router replying twice? (It happens
> if I go the
> other way too.)
> 
> The hub router is 172.16.1.3. Why is it sending back the dest
> unreachable
> twice?
> 
> The topology is:
> 
> R1------R3-----R2
> 
> 
> Here are my configs:
> 
> r1
> ip subnet-zero
> no ip icmp rate-limit unreachable
> !
> interface Loopback0
>   ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.255
> !
> interface Ethernet0/0
>   description to Cat 5K 3/1
>   ip address 10.10.1.1 255.255.255.0
>   half-duplex
> !
> interface TokenRing0/0
>   description in ring 1
>   ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
>   ring-speed 16
> !
> interface Serial1/0
>   ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
>   encapsulation frame-relay
>   ip ospf network point-to-point
>   frame-relay interface-dlci 133
>   frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> router ospf 1
>   log-adjacency-changes
>   network 10.10.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0.0.0.0
>   network 172.16.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0.0.0.0
>   network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0.0.0.0
>   network 192.168.255.1 0.0.0.0 area 0.0.0.0
> !
> ip classless
> 
> 
> 
> R3
> ip subnet-zero
> no ip icmp rate-limit unreachable
> !
> interface Loopback0
>   ip address 192.168.255.3 255.255.255.255
> !
> interface Ethernet0/0
>   description link to cat5k 3/3
>   ip address 10.10.3.1 255.255.255.0
>   half-duplex
> !
> interface Serial1/0
>   description Frame relay
>   no ip address
>   encapsulation frame-relay
>   no fair-queue
>   no frame-relay inverse-arp
>   frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> interface Serial1/0.1 point-to-point
>   description link to R1
>   ip address 172.16.1.3 255.255.255.0
>   ip ospf network point-to-point
>   frame-relay interface-dlci 331
> !
> interface Serial1/0.2 point-to-point
>   description link to R2
>   ip address 172.16.2.3 255.255.255.0
>   ip ospf network point-to-point
>   frame-relay interface-dlci 332
> !
> router ospf 1
>   log-adjacency-changes
>   network 10.10.3.0 0.0.0.255 area 0.0.0.0
>   network 172.16.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0.0.0.0
>   network 192.168.255.3 0.0.0.0 area 0.0.0.0
> !
> ip classless
> 
> 
> R2
> !
> hostname r2
> !
> ip subnet-zero
> no ip icmp rate-limit unreachable
> !
> interface Loopback0
>   ip address 192.168.255.2 255.255.255.255
> !
> interface Ethernet0/0
>   description to Cat 5K 3/2
>   ip address 10.10.2.1 255.255.255.0
>   half-duplex
> !
> interface TokenRing0/0
>   ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
>   ring-speed 16
> !
> interface Serial1/0
>   ip address 172.16.2.2 255.255.255.0
>   encapsulation frame-relay
>   ip ospf network point-to-point
>   no fair-queue
>   frame-relay interface-dlci 233
>   frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> router ospf 1
>   log-adjacency-changes
>   network 10.10.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0.0.0.0
>   network 172.16.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0.0.0.0
>   network 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0.0.0.0
>   network 192.168.255.2 0.0.0.0 area 0.0.0.0
> ip classless
> 
> 
> There's a Cisco router "in the cloud" acting as a Frame Relay
> switch,
> switching from DLCIs. I don't have its config. (This was a
> virtual lab).
> Thanks for any hints you can give me.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> ________________________
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
> 
> 
> Vicuna, Mark wrote:
> > 
> > While we are on the topic.. I remember a post by Priscilla a
> > few months
> > ago now (I think) with a traceroute showing 2 path entries of
> > the same
> > ip.  The result of the traceroute was not able to be
> reproduced
> > (I
> > think).   Anyone remember what the outcome of this was?  
> > 
> > 
> > The archives are not searchable at this point in time.
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Mark.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert D. Cluett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, 19 August 2002 19:10
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: traceroute IP displays twice [7:51622]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Raj!
> > > 
> > > ""Raj Santiago""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > i should have included this part as well to the previous
> > post :
> > > >
> > > > >1 172.26.1.13 20 msec
> > > >    172.26.1.2 20 msec
> > > >    172.26.1.13 20 msec
> > > >
> > > > The above indicates, of the two possible paths the router 
> > > has [172.26.1.2,
> > > > 172.26.1.13] it has chosen the path 172.26.1.13.
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