Part of the complicated image probably harkens back to early ATM
campus applications, pre 100BaseT.

  As you mention the configuration of ATM is very similiar to frame
though you need to shape your ATM traffic assuming a non UBR PVC or your
"goodput" will be unacceptable.  For whatever reason Cisco does not take
into account the ATM overhead when calculating your shaping parameters,
i.e. if your shaping a 5M pipe subtract %10, police at 4.5M for
aal5snap.

  Now LANE I think is primarily where ATM configuration/ especially
troubleshooting fear comes from, just say no to LANE!  If you simplt
want to extend a few VLANs over your ATM and you have LANE cards and an
RSM/MSFC you can bind the PVCs to the VLAN to extend a VLAN/s across
ATM.

  Dave

Chuck's Long Road wrote:
> 
> This thread brings to mind a question I've had for a while.
> 
> It appears sometimes that a lot of people think ATM is difficult to
> understand, implement, support.
> 
> Why is it that?
> 
> My ( albeit limited ) exposure to ATM from the customer side is that ATM is
> basically every bit as easy to set up and run on your typical WAN as frame
> relay. Yes there are some additional bells and whistles which can become
> complex as you do more complex things. And obviously, complex corporate
> networks might make use of a lot more ATM specific features.
> 
> But in general, you set up the PVC's, configure the IP address ( or enable
> bridging ) and do everything else pretty much the same was as you do with
> frame relay.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Chuck
> 
> --
> 
> TANSTAAFL
> "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"
> 
> ""M.C. van den Bovenkamp""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Daren Presbitero wrote:
> >
> > > Couldn't you bridge the VLAN's into an ATM 1483 bridged PVC, point to
> > > point across the WAN at both ends?
> >
> > That's how I did it when I had the need.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marco.
-- 
David Madland
CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston
Churchill




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