Mike, I'm top posting because
At 2:49 PM +0000 10/9/02, mike greenberg wrote: >I can't help but jump into this discussion. Prior to joining the neworking >field, I've >zero experience and I wouldn't get where I am today if I didn't have the >CCNP cert(back in Jan. 2000). As a biology major fresh out of >college, I don't think any managers would be interested in a guy >with no working experience and no certs. > >However, through the braindumps, I was able to get the CCNP cert in 2 >weeks. > >Granted that I didn't have networking experience but I can pick up things >very quickly. Furthermore, the one advantage I had going for me (at >that time) is that I know how to build a franken pix firewall. Arm >with this knowledge, I actually put this on my resume and look for >jobs. I got several network security job offers >including Nokia with a very nice salary (90k in Jan. 2000). I am making a >lot more today. > >The point I am trying to make here is that CCNP braindumps is not such a bad >thing if you know how to use it to your advantage. It will further enhance >your career and financial rewards. > Mike, I hear you, that braindumps helped you. I think I can speak for the moderator team and many of the people on the list that we feel braindumps tend to cheapen the certifications. They are not welcome on this list. If you want to start a braindump site or list, no one is stopping you. Now -- did I ever get a job when I didn't have direct work experience with a technology? Of course I did. These were mostly in programming, and you'd better believe I didn't cram from then nonexistent braindumps -- I read several books on the programming language, wrote a few programs, and, if possible, tested them. In my more research-oriented jobs, no one assumes that I know everything about a topic. Part of my responsibility is inventing solutions. Obviously, that doesn't apply at entry level. Any list has its own customs; any list or medium is fundamentally subject to the "owner of the press." Freedom of the press doesn't mean you can force the press owner to print anything you want. -- "What Problem are you trying to solve?" ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Member of Groupstudy moderation team ******************************************************************************** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications http://www.gettlabs.com Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 books: Building Service Provider Networks (Wiley 2002), WAN Survival Guide (Wiley 2000), Building Routing and Switching Architectures for Enterprise Neworks (McMillan 1999), Building Addressing Architectures for Routing and Switching (McMillan 1998). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=55198&t=55166 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

