Running a VoIP application over a frame-relay network with 256k CIR and
512k BIR.  From the LLQ docs I reviewed, to guarantee good voice
quality, traffic shaping all frame traffic to CIR is recommended along
with LLQ of voice packets.

Would like to take advantage of BIR bandwidth and still guarantee voice
packets are not dropped by the frame relay switch network when
congestion occurs.  Here are my thoughts:

What if the router were to pre-mark all data packets as "Discard
Eligible" (DE) on the outbound serial interface connected to the frame
network.  Voice packets would NOT be marked DE.  Then run up to BIR
rates with LLQ prioritization for voice. Would the carrier frame network
switches drop only the pre-marked DE data packets (by the router) when
congestion occurred and NOT drop any voice packets?  I haven't found any
Cisco links that addressed QOS in this fashion.  Any links on this topic
would be greatly appreciated.

The objective is to squeeze more bandwidth (BIR vs CIR) out of your
frame relay network without dropping any voice packets. Why would this
not work and what are the caveats?

regards,
dj




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