I'd have to agree.  There are too many large organizations using IP
telephony.  I come from the healthcare world.  We are implimenting over 3000
ip phones.  Baylor is implementing over 13000 and we are not alone.  The PBX
is becoming a dinosaur.  To succeed you must plan, plan, plan.  I would
suggest even bringing in outside consultants that have done this on a wide
scale if the experience level is not there.


----- Original Message -----
From: "George E Lampro Super Genius" 
To: ; "'Nathan Chessin'" 
Cc: "'Albert Lu'" ; ;
; "'Joe'" ;

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: RE: Cisco ExecNet


> IP phones are cheaper and easier to move so you MAC(Move, ADD, Changes)
cost
> less.
> Look at all of the features on the IP phones.  Plan your implementations
and
> avoid the ugly LAN.
>
> Garth from Waynes World would say "we fear change"
>
> Dont be a Garth,  enjoy the cool new technology.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 5:10 AM
> To: Nathan Chessin
> Cc: 'Albert Lu'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Joe';
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Cisco ExecNet
>
>
> you said:
> >>> 1) Since when is VoIP a "bandwidth-hungry app"
>
> and I would respond "When it is deployed".  Sure, one VoIP call using G729
> might only take 25kbps, but try handling 50-60 of them 24x7 and you'll
> start to find your site-to-site T1's being used for VoIP, and not for
> "data".
>
> ...and when you deploy IP Phones, the LAN REALLY gets ugly... far uglier
> than you'd think (but again, assuming you're deploying more than a dozen
> phones ).
>
> danT
>
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