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> At 10:41 PM 11/26/2002 +0000, Larry Letterman wrote:
> >switch A and B wont talk to each other or cause a loop
> >because you have switch B isolated. STP in your case is
> >set for 3 instances :  STP for Vlan 1, Vlan 7 and Vlan 8.
> >A loop would be present if switch B were set for Vlan 7
> >on both links and STP did not block one of the ports.
>
> I'm curious here.  Given Switch A and B don't emit tagged frames, traffic
> should flow freely despite A and B's disagreement on VLAN ID.  I am not
> very familiar with Per VLAN STP encoding however.  Are the BPDU's modified
> to carry a VLAN identifier?  This would seem superfluous to me and I'd
> wonder where it would be needed.  My take on 802.1q PVST+ is that only the
> common STP BDPUs are sent untagged and all other BPDUs are sent tagged
with
> their appropriate VLAN making them easy to disambiguate.
>
CL: my quick look here in my own lab indicate the switches don't like it if
one side of an access link states one vlan, and the other side states
another.

6d09h: %CDP-4-NATIVE_VLAN_MISMATCH: Native VLAN mismatch discovered on
FastEther
net0/22 (7), with Switch_48 FastEthernet0/46 (1).

CL: that's beside s the point however. I think what you are asking is how
the 802.1d headers are marked?

CL: the current standard takes what used to be the bridge id number ( 16
bits ) and separates that into two fields. The bridge i.d. portion is now 4
bits, and bridge i.d.'s are now in multiples of 4096.

0001 = 4096
0010 = 8092
etc

CL: the remaining 12 bits is now the vlan i.d. field. So vlan information is
carried in tagged and untagged frames alike. 802.1q  encapsulation inserts a
few more bytes into the frame.



>
>
> >pauldongso wrote:
> >
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > >Please advise how STP participates in the following scenario and why
STP
> > >fails to stop the loop?
> > >  --------------------
> > >  |switch      A      |
> > >  ---------------------
> > >   |(vlan 7)    | (vlan 8)
> > >   |            |
> > >   |            |
> > >   |(vlan 1)    |(vlan 1)
> > >  -------------------
> > >  | switch B         |
> > >  --------------------
> > >    |    |     |
> > >     vlan 1 hosts
> > >
> > >
> > >In short, switch A has two ports configured with vlan 7, vlan 8
> > >respectively. Swtich B all ports are at default vlan 1.
> > >links between swA and swB are access mode.
> > >
> > >This scenario creates bridging loop. But just can't figure out why STP
> > >fails to stop loop.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >Paul




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