MS- or PhD-level coursework is more difficult than what you'll run into
studying for the CCIE, but they don't really cover the same subject
matter so it's really apples and oranges.  I personally don't even have
a BS--which I regret--but it wouldn't help much in my current position
anyway, except possibly for promotions or raises, which is important,
but it wouldn't help me do my job any better.

IMO, someone who pursues an MS or PhD is not planning on remaining a
network technician for long; they probably have loftier goals.  A CCIE
with no degree, on the other hand, likely enjoys the technical side of
things.  I often heard it lamented that many CCIEs who are loving life
as senior engineers end up being placed into management positions that
they hate.  Just because someone is advanced in a technical area does
not necessarily make them management material.  OTOH, someone with an MS
or PhD is quite often management material, but not necessarily the first
person you'd call with a general networking question.  That depends on
their area of emphasis, of course.

So, my opinion?  You're compairing apples to oranges, but an MS or PhD
is tougher than CCIE if you're going to a reputable school.

Regards,
John

>>> "Black Jack"  12/18/02 12:05:01 PM >>>
I suppose a CCIE is sort of a Ph.D. of networking. Studying for and
taking
the written is the equivalent of coursework, then doing hands-on to
prepare
for the lab is like research for your dissertation, the the lab test
represents the oral exam. But I wouldn't stretch the analogy too far.
For
one thing the quality and difficulty of computer science graduate
schools
varies greatly. Just getting into one of the top programs is probably
harder
than CCIE. And for another the two programs don't really test the same
skills, do they? (Though they surely overlap)

Mic shoeps wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I've been arguing with a collegue of mine which one would be
> tougher to achieve. I told him that it would be much more
> harder to have a computer science or a networking degree (you
> have to take the GRE and complete 2 or 3 years of school works)
> than a CCIE, but my collegue think other wise. He literally
> believes that having a CCIE is equivalent of having a Ph.d in
> Networking. I'd like to hear your thought.




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