BTW, wasn't Mother Teresa also a CCIE?!
;) >From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481] >Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 04:33:23 GMT > >At 1:21 AM +0000 1/5/03, nrf wrote: > >""Howard C. Berkowitz"" wrote in message > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >> At 11:12 PM +0000 1/4/03, nrf wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> >So if it's doing public good that concerns you, then the more successful > >you > >> >are, the more you have to give. Let's face it - it's not going to be > >easy > >> >to create a charitable foundation that helps millions of people the way > >the > >> >Rockefeller Foundation did if you're working for minimum wage. > >> > >> Did I miss something about Mother Teresa's pay scale? > >> > >> I never said she wasn't tough. Anyone who pays a visit to the > >> hospital bed of the then-Mayor of New York (Ed Koch) recovering from > >> a heart attack, blesses him, and then hits on him for more reserved > >> parking places for her missions is TOUGH. > > > >Touche, but the point I was trying to make was this. > > > >I don't want this to come off as a low-blow, and I'm certainly not accusing > >anybody here of being two-faced. But I've heard the argument before from > >people who say that they don't want to enter the business world, or climb > >the corporate ladder because they think that Corporate America is corrupt > >and they are more concerned with being ethical and doing good for the > >community. Yet many of these same people (not all, but many) do little if > >anything for the community that they claim to care for. Which begs the > >question that if you choose not to follow the rules of Big Business because > >you think it's evil and you are concerned with doing and being good, then > >why aren't you doing good works? Hmmm. > >I can speak only for myself here. I've not been interested in going >into corporate top management because I don't enjoy the things even >very good, very ethical top managers need to do. Yes, I'll wander >around exchanging ideas with colleagues and keep track of what my >developers are doing, but I have no interest in coming up with the >latest optimization for shareholder value, for mergers and >acquisitions, for untangling turf battles, etc. > >But I am in the business world. I know I need to do budgets and >funding justifications for my own projects, and monitor schedules for >my own people. I'd rather not spend all my time doing that. I enjoy >individual technical mentoring. > >I won't say I'm quite like Steve Wozniak, who made his pile from pure >engineering, and now mostly does elementary school teaching because >he enjoys kids. Personally, I'm a pedophobe. At the same time, I >can't ever see retiring because I have too much fun doing what I do. >My community service, if you will, tends to be at a policy level -- >I'm involved in privacy policy, information technology in county >government, sexual rights, interdisciplinary stuff between medicine >and computing. > >I've been a road warrior enough that I'd far rather try to grow a new >herb in my garden than take a grand tour to Paris. Bad example. I've >never had a good experience in Paris. London, Tokyo, or Amsterdam, >maybe, but my first priority would be who takes care of the cats (Cat >1's, not 6500's. Single tail circuit, four sets of connectors, null >male or female interfaces). > > > > >Now, let me reiterate. The above paragraph might be construed as an attempt > >by me to take a shot at certain people here. Not at all. I'm just stating > >a phenomenom that I have seen from some people not on this NG. > > > >By the way, while Mother Teresa may not have personally had a lot of money, > >her practice obviously got money from somewhere. You can't feed and care > >for thousands without some kind of financial backing. > >Of course not. But she didn't have to demonstrate MBA-type skills to >a corporate hierarchy to get there. > > > misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60333&t=59481 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

