Sounds interesting. I'm looking at the IntelliPop 5000. It looks like it's
doing VDSL, and limited to 4000ft. This is probably only suitable for
utilising copper pairs within a building. But it pipes data at up to 26Mbps.
Cisco's G.SHDSL goes alot further but with lesser bandwidth.

Does anyone know if there's a DSL NIC that can go into your PC, rather than
having a CPE device? Also, I'm not too familiar with DSL, but does it allow
a splitter facility which you can split your line for voice and data?

Any ideas how much the Tutsys product costs?

Albert

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NON Cisco, but hey .. tutsytems have a MTU pop (Multi Tenant User),
basically its not multipoint but a chasis that can terminate numberous SDSL
connections over existing copper pair.  The use an eample of puytting one of
these in the basement of a tenant appartment, then using the existing copper
(telephony), you can provide access to all the users in the block (they need
to have a splitter, but thats it!).  Then you would have a single WAN (eg
T1) from the chassis to a provider.

Making use of dark copper / fibre (ie no signalling etc), is a great way to
provide cheap point-to-point links between sites (within the distance
limitations).

Albert Lu wrote:
>
> Found it on cisco.com
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/800/prodlit/apcnf_an.htm
>
> Sounds great!! If only it could do multipoint rather than only
> point-to-point, I guess you can't expect too much from a copper
> pair. Maybe
> cisco can come out with router with multiple g.shdsl interface.
>
> Albert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch
> [7:63711]
>
>
> As Skarphedinsson told me before about the G.SHDSL 828, he was
> completely
> right.
>
>
> Cisco 828 and SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers offer an affordable
> broadband WAN
> access solution that can be carried over existing copper
> telephone lines
> (Dry one). The routers provide a symmetrical WAN connection at
> speeds up to
> 2.3 Mbps with a 20,000-foot distance limitation.
>
>
> G.SHDSL standard allow two G.SHDSL routers to directly connect
> with copper
> wiring in a back-to-back configuration. This back-to-back
> scenario allows
> two Cisco 828 or Cisco SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers to connect
> without a DSLAM or
> IP DSL Switch between the units.
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh
>
> Thanks for to Troy, Skarphedinsson, Steve Wilson and all.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:52 AM
> Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch
> [7:63711]
>
> I have read the MXL-2300 Brochure its really not complicated
> like Cisco DSL
> products cause to be honest I have lost in Cisco site searching
> for the
> right product to implement my solution , I am still interested
> to look for
> the equivalent product from Cisco, but if I did not find it
> then I will go
> for MXL-2300.
>
>
> Thanks for help.
>
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Leliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch
> [7:63711]
>
> What you want to do is possible....infact I demo'd something
> similar.  I
> used the MXL-2300 from tut systems ...
>
> http://www.tutsys.com/mtu/products/ethernetworking/mxl_2300/index.cfm
>
> at anything under 3.5km you can get about 2MB.  I haven't tried
> it this
> using any cisco kit,
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh wrote:
> >
> > I think I have to refine my question to be clearer
> >
> > Again
> >
> > I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> > away via DSL
> > without any external service provider (phone company).
> >
> >
> > Two dry copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office
> > to the Branch
> > office.
> >
> >
> > Is this design going to achieve my goal:
> >
> >
> > Clients PC--Ethernet-dsl router-----dry pair of copper
> > wires----dsl
> > router---Ethernet--Clients PC.
> >
> > Ismail Al-Shelh
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:11 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]
> >
> > I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> > away via ADSL
> > without any external service provider.
> > Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to
> > the Branch
> > office.
> >
> >
> > Is this design going to achieve my goal?
> >
> > Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-----pair of copper wires----837
> > ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
> >
> >
> >
> > Ismail Al-Shelh




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