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> From: Fred Bauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: October 14, 2006 1:11:33 PM MDT
> To: "Sarah Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Fred Bauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Citizendium-l] Editorial Disputes - Tools we already  
> have?
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Sarah Tuttle wrote:
>
>> I'm a bit new to this conversation, so excuse me if I'm treading  
>> where I
>> shouldn't.
>>
>> It seems like by mashing together two (fairly) servicable models,  
>> we might
>> come up with something quite fair, documented, reversable and  
>> solid.  If
>> editors edit in a process similar to the academic review process,  
>> ie, by
>> submiting documented challenges/inquiries/clarifications to the  
>> author,
>> then the process of editing is well documented.
>
> This in the intended use of the article talk page. Used well, it  
> could function like this with the record of the dialog available to  
> the reader and other editors. Wikipedia article talk pages are  
> usually much less informative and in the case of disputed articles,  
> tend to rehash issues, all contained in multiple archived pages.
>
>> If there is an appeal then
>> send it to the appelate court - let's say three editors, one of  
>> whom has
>> some expertise in the area in question.  Majority rule is  
>> documented, as
>> is the dissenting opinion if there is one. That way, if at some  
>> point the
>> issue is revisited, the meat of the discussion and decision is easily
>> referenced. Three is enough to give fair consideration while not  
>> overly
>> burdening the editorial staff, and by randomly choosing all the  
>> editors
>> (from the whole pool in the case of two, and from a smaller pool  
>> for the
>> third) any personal/political issues that have surfaced should be  
>> easy to
>> spot and move past.
>
> This solution was rejected on Wikipedia, both dispute resolution  
> concerning content, and the designation of experts in a subject  
> area to help with content disputes. The consequence is that content  
> questions are approached only through the backdoor of improper  
> behavior, habitually using unreliable sources, edit warring, or  
> biased editing. That done by a committee which is usually not  
> editing in that area of content, and not expert in it. In addition,  
> the resolution of the dispute is not part of the talk page of the  
> article, but off in prior arbitration cases. Your proposed solution  
> should work much better.
>
>>
>> Curious to see how it all turns out.
>> Sarah Tutle
>>
>>
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>
> Larry,
>
> Thanks for the mailing list back. I'll do my best to make  
> constructive comments.
>
> Fred Bauder
>

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