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Re: https://lists.purdue.edu/pipermail/citizendium-l/2006-October/000633.html
DG = David Goodman
DG: 4/ The weakness of WP is the process, and the amount of skill and
devotion the quality control process requires in face of the anarchy.
We'll have initial controls of some sort in CZ to reduce the vandalism,
but reverting them is not the hardest part. The attempt to maintain a
democratic process inherently requires much overhead and inefficiency,
regardless of the academic level. It could even be said that professional
academics are among the most difficult group this way, because most of them
expect to be the leaders. Those of us with experience in faculty meetings
should recognize what has been at work here the weeks of the planning
discussions. I was not at all surprised to find that among the most
effective participants have been people too young to have this
experience.
David,
My experience of Wikipedia was rather different. I believe in democracy,
I believe in the life of inqiry, and I believe in making the results of
inquiry as widely accessible as we possibly can. The proper relation
between democracy and inquiry is a very tricky question, and there
are several whole literature streams on that one subject alone.
So let's save that for an article on [[Democracy and Inquiry]].
Wikipedia was avowedly not a democracy, and if that reflected
the insight that questions of fact are not settled by dint
of popular opinion alone, then not being so was fitting.
But the complementary insight has frequently been expressed
that democracies might just be the optimal social framework
for the conduct of inquiry, and that insight was missing in
action when it came to the day to day business of Wikipedia.
I have nothing against administrators, per se. Some of my best friends
are administrators -- and I mean administrators in the real world sense.
But my online encounters with 15 to 20 year old "administrators" who had
somewhere around 1/10 the number of edits I had, even less if you count
main article edits instead of gossip sessions on policy and talk pages,
are not the sort of thing that would lead me to your praise of them.
Jon Awbrey
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