Hi:
   
  I think that we are all basically saying the same thing.  I was merely 
pointing out that there was no pan-European standard for most of the 
instruments that we are calling citteerns and that the same could be said of a 
lot of others.
   
  Brad

Martina Rosenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi all,
I'd like to add something to the discussion. The modern Waldzither is still on 
a standard of hundred years ago and there are various efforts to translate the 
instrument into modern music. None of the ideas had a "standard" breakthrough 
yet. It is a process, necessary and natural in all centuries to develop the 
instruments to match the music it is used for. So in my opinion there is no 
need of battling about the theory of the English Guittar responsible for 
producing the Portuguese Guitar for example. I think the modern tuning 
especially in Portugal shows, that every country has its own musical needs for 
an instrument. And the Portuguese perhaps happily welcomed the English Guittar 
because IT WAS ALREADY FAMILIAR, known from a still existing renaissance 
cittern tradition. It is not a contradiction between theories but an exchange 
between two root lines. So the seeds of exchange make different flowers given 
the circumstances. That's natural for human culture, isn't it?
Martina
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