Alexander Batov wrote:There is even more to the story. I came across a number of French cistres (some with seven-courses) which had watch key tuners without Preston mark onthem. Were they copied after Preston's, smuggled out of England and rebranded ...? I very much doubt it.Apart from one puzzling cistre in the V&A, it looks to me that there was a guittar (English guitar) fad in Britain that then spread to France and the Low Countries. Guittars and music appear in Britain from the 1750s and start to appear in France a decade or so later. The guitharre angloise - tuned in C - is mentioned by Joseph Carpentier in 1770 (who evidently disliked the pitch at C). Pieces from the guittar repertoire published in Britain are sometimes ripped off and appear anew in (later) French publications with the French preferred tuning of a modified A chordal tuning.So there really does seem a direction of influence from Britain to France. From a French perspective, they picked up an inconsiderable instrument from Britain and made it into something more tolerable! So, the British use of watch keys - and metal tuners - would understandably be taken up by the French too.StuartEven the instruments themselves could have been made earlier than those with Preston branded tuners.PS disclaimer: I'm not trying to steal the invention out of Preston's hand;he was a nice guy and made great English guittars. I'm only figuring out where the idea could have come from. Alexander To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Don't know why this turned up on the vihuela list! This is a second
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- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Alexander Batov
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Stuart Walsh
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Alexander Batov
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Alexander Batov
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Martina Rosenberger
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Alexander Batov
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Alexander Batov
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Alexander Batov
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Alexander Batov
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Alexander Batov
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Martina Rosenberger
- [CITTERN] Re: Preston tuner history Rob
