If what you say is true they cheated the breed. Not just your dogs. As far as I can tell nothing is being done about it.
Making generalizations about typey dogs surely does no good. Innuendos surely do harm. Playing God is foolish. I had Cavaliers now for nearly 30 years. I have had dogs live for as long as 15 years, I have had dogs die at 7. I have never had a dog with patella problems. I have had one dog with eye problems. I've had "good luck" as compared to others. And still I consider this breed a time bomb. Preaching..whinging as Peggy said seems to do nothing....I say stop preaching and start acting. Jo Ann Carvill BJ Cavaliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bjcavaliers.com > Actually, I'm not casting aspersions at all. I'm stating a plain fact. > Breeders can and do breed affected dogs and not all breeders health test. > And no. I don't think that those breeders necessarily cheated me. They > cheated my dogs. Myra Savant > > > > > >Sorry your statement doesn't cut it. Makes little or no sense. Sadly. > > > >Are you saying the people you purchased the dogs from cheated you? > >And further, that the dogs..typey dogs..in the pedigrees are to blame for > >your misfortune? They..(they typey ones) carried the problems you speak > >of.... did you purchase from established, long time, successful breeders? > >Have you decided that less typey dogs will be healthier? > > > >What I see and what makes me very sad is people breeding with no plan other > >than to test for as many illness as is possible..and the more they test the > >worse their dogs become..health wise as well as type wise. I've watched > >some of these people for 20 years or more...are they getting anywhere, hell > >no but they sure to clog up the works. Spinning their evil little webs. > > > >I would think in the light of what this country (actually the world) has > >just gone through and where it seems to be headed; we could as a people > >stop throwing stones and try to begin to solve the minor (in the scheme of > >things) problems we have without casting aspersions. > > > > > >Jo Ann Carvill > >BJ Cavaliers > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >www.bjcavaliers.com > > > > > > > Laura's comment might be construed by many to be 'mean', but it is > > > nevertheless very sadly true. Of the five dogs that we have bought from > > > other breeders in the US, one had hip dysplasia, one had geographic > > > dysplasia and one had multiple, deep punctated folds with small retinal > > > tears. Somebody's breeding some dogs with some pretty serious health > > > issues as these conditions are generally accepted to be genetic in > >nature. > > > Lots of very typey dogs in those pedigrees. Mean is being on the > >recieving > > > end of an unhealthy dog. Laura's comment deserves no censure; it is > >true. > > > Myra Savant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peggy: > > > > > I am reminded of something my grandmother used to say. > > > > > "You can say what you mean, but...don't say it mean". > > > > > > > > > > ~Robyn > > > > > -- > > > > >. Trunk said: > > > > > > > >Fourth, this discussion could not have been thought of unless there are > > > >breeders who ARE breeding dogs who supposedly exude type but have > >health > > > >problems > > > > > > > >And this comment needs no censure? > > > > > > > >Robyn, > > > >If we are going to start policing our listers we need to be fair about > >it. > > > >Mean is mean even if it is said nicely. > > > >Jo Ann Carvill > > > >BJ Cavaliers > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >www.bjcavaliers.com > > > > ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
