Well having handled a couple of times over in the US and gone BOB over
specials, on the day I did think the best dog won VBG But then I was biased
as I bred her!! LOL

Annette
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> Well, basically what I hear on all levels of showing in the AKC is that if
> your dog beat their dog...and your dog was professionally handled, it only
> won because of the handler.  From puppy classes up to Group, if their dog
> loses, it is the fault of the handlers, and if your dog wins, it is the
> fault of the handlers.  If your dog and my dog are both professionally
> handled, then my dog won because the judge is personal friends with my
> handler.  Nobody ever entertains the concept that maybe the dog that won
was
> the best dog that day.  Never.  Myra
>
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> >From: "John P. Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
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> >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Breed vs. Group
> >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:53:40 -0800
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> >But in following the views of the majority of the posts on both lists, it
> >seems that the general concensus of the exhibitors is that the Groups are
> >the most political, the place where the known handlers seem to have the
> >greatest power, whereas within the breed perhaps the judge tries a bit
> >harder to find the best example. The 'big boys' are after the group
> >placements and it is the 'Specials' dogs that receive 90+% of the
> >advertising in the big all breed magazines with page after page of group
> >wins and BISs...
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