No, I'm finding it harder already to get up and down all day from the puppy
pen and more difficult to manage.  I think another 5 years will just about
do it for me.  I hope not, but somedays, I sure feel old and creaky.  Maybe
with really good kennel help, I might last longer.  Caring for the dogs and
the puppies is very physical.   Myra


>From: Susan Cochran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Advice to Parents seeking pups for their children
>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:54:52 -0400
>
>Myra, the average time in a breed in 5 years. Just hang around and you'll
>quickly outlive the others.
>
>All the best,
>Susan Cochran
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:49 PM
>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Advice to Parents seeking pups for their children
>
>
> > Yep.  I can tell you for a certainty Susan, that I will be referred to
>as
>a
> > "newbie" until the day I die.  I don't have enough good years left to
>gain
> > the respect of the people who have been at it even as long as 3-4 years
> > longer than I have.  I actually find it amusing....breeders who have
>been
> > breeding cavaliers for 10 years or so, but have never bred another
>mammal
>in
> > their lives have the nerve to discuss me as a "newbie"....after a life
>time
> > of breeding just about anything that could reproduce including other
>breeds
> > of dogs.  In addition to that, I am a well-experienced Labor/Delivery
>Nurse
> > with several reproduction specialities.  I've taught "long time
>breeders"
> > how to AI, and tube feed newborns.  I suppose I should be flattered.  At
>58,
> > it's been a long time since I was a "newbie" to anything.   Myra
> >
> >
> > >From: Susan Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Advice to Parents seeking pups for their children
> > >Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:30:49 +0000
> > >
> > >In follow up to Myra's post, I feel that referrals between the
>"oldtimers"
> > >and so-called "newcomers" could be improved.  I sometimes get the
> > >impression
> > >that those who have been established in the breed since before AKC
> > >acceptance are somewhat prejudiced against those who have become
>breeders
> > >after acceptance. As a result, these people tend to tell you they don't
> > >know
> > >anyone who has puppies even though there may be many ethical, caring
>"new"
> > >breeders with puppies out there. I think I would encourage anyone
>looking
> > >for a Cavalier to get on this list and then make personal contacts with
> > >list
> > >members.  What do the rest of you think?
> > >
> > >Susan Jackson
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Myra Savant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Advice to Parents seeking pups for their
>children
> > >>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:21:24 +0000
> > >>
> > >>I think that the better wording would have been:  wait a year or two
>to
> > >>get
> > >>a puppy from a BIG breeder rather than a GOOD breeder.  We consider
> > >>ourselves 'good' breeders.  Our dogs are nice, well cared for, do well
>in
> > >>the show ring, have good pedigrees, and are fully health tested.  We
>are
> > >>'good' breeders.  We are also small, unimportant breeders who are not
>well
> > >>known.  We don't even have a waiting list, much less a two year wait
>for
>a
> > >>puppy.  We've only sold three pups to show homes and two of them have
>won
> > >>Best Puppy in Breed, and Best Puppy in Show multiple times, so I know
> > >>we're
> > >>on the right track, but a one or two year wait just doesn't seem
>feasible.
> > >>I don't know about the big, name breeders.  Myra
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: Susan Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> > >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Advice to Parents seeking pups for their
>children
> > >>>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:08:57 +0000
> > >>>
> > >>>Patti wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>The thing is that I know adults who think this is the way it works
> > >>>>too. They aren't bad people, they just don't understand why you have
> > >>>>to wait for a year or two to get a nice dog from a good breeder.
> > >>>
> > >>>A year or two? If I had to wait that long for a Cavalier puppy I
>probably
> > >>>would have found another breed, or gotten another boxer. I've been in
> > >>>boxers
> > >>>for 20 years and when I lost my home-bred 7 year old Ch to cancer I
>and
> > >>>my
> > >>>10 year old Ch bitch were devastated.  Several weeks later I started
> > >>>looking
> > >>>for a Cavalier as I had wanted one for years. I found the perfect
>puppy
> > >>>(in
> > >>>my eyes) in the first litter I looked at. He's now 14 months old and
>has
> > >>>gone a long way to filling the hole in my heart left by Archie's
>death.
> > >>>He's
> > >>>a very nice representative of the breed with super temperament and I
>very
> > >>>happy with him. IMHO asking someone to wait 1-2 years, especially for
>a
> > >>>pet,
> > >>>is just telling them to go to pet shops or internet sellers who are
> > >>>breeding
> > >>>for the pet market. Or to buy another breed that is more readily
> > >>>available.
> > >>>
> > >>>Susan Jackson
> > >>>Reward's Boxers & Cavalier
> > >>>Sylmar, CA
> > >>>
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