Myra wrote
<Ok.  I'll agree Charlotte,  if you can help me to understand why it's okay
for me to breed to the 9 month old, completely untested dual registered boy
next door, but not okay for me to use an untested AKC only boy.  Also,
please tell me which tests would be required, and who makes the decisions
about what tests are appropriate, what guidelines would be used, etc.   At
what age do we accept a murmur, at what age do we accept arthitic changes in
the joints, at what age do we accept a cataract and at what age can the
patellae start slipping?  Who decides these things?  Will a letter from your
vet stating that he thinks there may have been an injury to the hip work, or
just a letter from you?  Which tests are most important and at what age
should they have been administered in order to most correctly predict the
genetic baggage that the dog is carrying versus age related disorders?  Do
we have to test for clotting disorders and diseases of the thyroid?  Help me
to understand how a bunch of laymen are going to determine all of the
guidelines for health testing.  I already asked this question once today and
got not a single answer.  Can you help me?  Myra

Of course they can't help you Myra, because they are considering this issue through a 
tunnel.  From the outside looking in I can tell you that it is not a pretty sight.  

Most of these people will never have sat up all night waiting for a bitch to whelp, 
had the heartbreak of seeing still born puppies or puppies that no matter how much 
effort and how many sleepless nights you have, you just can't save.  Or witnessing the 
horrible things that mother nature can throw at you in a litter.  Or having to hand 
rear a whole litter of puppies, run a house, hold down a job and remain sane.

How any person can claim to love this breed but support a system that may not allow 
the best dogs to be used in a breeding programme is beyond me!!

In the above example you forgot to include a fully tested cleared 10 year old male 
that is 30 pounds and has eyes the colour of a weimaraner.  Being a breeder is about 
making the best choices to ensure that you bring typical, healthy in body and mind 
puppies into this world and yes sometimes even the most ethical get it wrong but it's 
not through lack of effort.

And finally I want to say this to you, I really think that on the whole Cavaliers are 
a robust, healthy wee dog.  Yes they have some health issues but in my almost 30 years 
in the breed I have found that if they are kept at a good weight and exercised that 
they live a good quality life into their teens.  The odd one may get a little joint 
stiffness as they get older (9+) they do get a bit deaf and their eyesight may not be 
100% (11+) but they are not this feeble, weak breed that some of you portray it.  And 
before you jump in and say well it is not a healthy breed in the US then perhaps you 
should look at the club who has been the supposed caretaker of this breed for the 
answers.

You'll note that I have changed the subject line, because again from the outside 
looking in that is all it is and as anyone knows there are seldom winners in a war.

Janine King
Nidra Cavaliers
Invercargill, New Zealand
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www.nidracavaliers.com

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