Dear Glenn:

You wrote:  "Is it a waste of money to get a 1 year old that you hope to
one day breed an echo cardiogram? (knowing that you will have to do it
again when she is older at the time of breeding?)"

IMO, it depends on what knowledge you want to gain.  Do you just want to
know ahead of time if you will be able to breed from this bitch?  If so, it
is possible to "see" regurgitation through the MV as early as one year of
age.  According to some of our unofficial stats:  of the 105 dogs presented
for examination in the 1-2 year age category, 48% showed "affected" on
colour doppler and 20% on auscultation. If your dog were to be one of the
ones "affected" at one year of age, I would think that you would certainly
pay attention to this potential warning.  If you were unaffected, you could
take some comfort in having gotten past the first hurdle.  These results
may, or may not, change by the time you are actually ready to breed at
about 2 - 2.5 years.  Knowing this information ahead of time is not a waste
of money IMO.

You wrote:  "Is it a waste of money to echo cardiogram a 3 year old
neutered male?"

Again, IMO, it's not a waste of money.  Someone can benefit by the
knowledge gathered.  The breeder who produced the dog and any breeder who
has possibly bred to the dog prior to neutering.

The results of echo/doppler testing are not able to determine a rate of
progression.  It will, however, show signs of early onset.  The rate of
progression remains to be seen.  Remember also, echo/doppler testing is but
one tool.  I don't think it wise to rely solely on doppler results.  It has
been known that one can have an auscultable murmur and be clear on doppler.
 I believe in the use of auscultation, doppler and ECG in screening for
potential breedings and am extremely fortunate that all three of these
diagnostic tools are easily accessible and affordable here in Southern
Ontario through our national club's MVD study at University of Guelph.  I
do sympathize with those who aren't as lucky as we are.


Pat Barrington - Barrington Cavaliers (Southern Ontario-Canada)
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