On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 03:41:42PM -0500, Shailabh Nagar wrote:
> Marc E. Fiuczynski wrote:
> >Hi Shailabh,
> >
> >
> >>I applied this on the PlanetLab CVS kernel and ran aiostress on a 3GHz
> >>P4 - its running as expected with the average sectors served values
> >>tracking the shares set.
> >
> >
> >Thank you for testing this with our kernel.  Will give this a shot ASAP.
> >
> >
> >>Two problems seen so far:
> >>- running a simple dd doesn't show up on the stats for the io controller
> >>for a class even though the pids show up in members. Need to find
> >>out why...
> >>
> >>- Setting very low limit values (< 50 or so) doesn't help - the app gets
> >>a minimum of 20-30 sectors per second anyway. The aggressiveness of
> >>regulation by the scheduler can be increased but I'm not sure if that is
> >>desirable.
> >
> >
> 
> >What does 20-30 sectors per second translate to in terms of disk bandwidth?
> >A sector is 512 bytes, right?  That implies that a class at minimum gets
> >10-15Kbytes per second?  
> 
> Correct.
> 
> Assuming seeks on the disk do not go nuts due to
> >the scheduler, what is the avg/max number of sectors per second one can
> >expect from a reasonably good disk these days?
> 
> On the system on which we have PlanetLab installed, hdparm shows about 
> 55 MB/s for unbuffered reads and around 850 MB/s for buffer-cache reads.
> This is fairly good IDE disk and should be representative of most newer 
> PL nodes.
> 
> Assuming unbuffered I/O only, 55 MB is  112,640 sectors per second for 
> the system as a whole. Of course, seeks will reduce it and page cache 
> reads (which are likely to be the common case) will increase the 
> effective rate to apps (scheduler only regulates disk b/w). Even 
> assuming a 50% degradation due to seeks, 30 sectors/sec minimum should 
> allow for 2100 classes.

hum? that sounds interesting ... 
what seek latencies do you assume here?

last time I checked, the average seek of a single
drive system was about 9ms, so let's assume you have
5 disks in a striping raid setup to gain performance
and reduce seek latency, the best case will give you
about 2ms in average ... let's assume that the read
itself happens with 50MB/s and you always read 30
sectors each transfer you'll end up with less than
200 concurrent streams with 15k each, which is about
3MB/s total (the rest is spent in seeking)

I guess the real world scenarios will performe much
worse than that, unless you do clever stuff ...

> I'm in the process of trying to exercise a large number of 
> classes....will keep the list posted.

I'm interested in the results ...

best,
Herbert

> -- Shailabh
> 
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