On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 17:18 -0800, Matt Helsley wrote: > On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 18:47 -0500, Hubertus Franke wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 09:35 -0800, Dave Hansen wrote: > <snip> > > > I've been talking a lot lately about how important filesystem isolation > > > between containers is to implement containers properly. Isolating the > > > filesystem namespaces makes it much easier to do things like fs-based > > > shared memory during a checkpoint/resume. If we want to allow tasks to > > > move around, we'll have to throw out this entire concept. That means > > > that a _lot_ of things get a notch closer to the too-costly-to-implement > > > category. > > > > > > > Not only that, as the example of pids already show, while at the surface > > these might seem as desirable features ( particular since they came up > > wrt to the CKRM discussion ), there are significant technical limitation > > to these. > > Perhaps merging the container process grouping functionality is not a > good idea. > > However, I think CKRM could be made minimally consistent with > containers using a few small modifications. I suspect all that is > necessary is: > <snip> > I think this would be sufficient to make CKRM and containers play > nicely with each other. I suspect further kernel-enforced constraints > between CKRM and containers may constitute policy and not functionality. >
I think that as a first step mutual coexistence is already quite useful. Once I containerize applications, having the ability to actually constrain and manage the resources consumed by that application would be a real plus. In that sense a container and CKRM class coincide. So even enforcing that "alignment" at a higher level through some awareness in the classification engine for instance would be quite useful. Are they the same kernel object .. NO .. because of the life cycle management of a process, namely once moved into a container it stays there... > > Cheers, > -Matt Helsley Prost ... Hubertus Franke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click _______________________________________________ ckrm-tech mailing list https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ckrm-tech
