Julian Mehnle wrote:

> 
> For three reasons:
> 
>  1. I consider filtering technically harmful messages for my users
>     acceptable, but I think filtering social engineering to be
>     censorship. I would rather educate my users.

 You really must be a patient and virtuous person, if you can succeed on
the education part :)

>  2. While recognizing technical engineering (viruses, worms, other
>     malware) automatically has proven to be feasible, I _generally_ do
>     not believe in recognizing social engineering (scams, phishing,
>     etc.) automatically.  Technical state of the art is far from doing
>     that reliably.  Without machines being able to understand the
>     meaning of text, any heuristics can only be a crook.  I am using
>     reputation systems (AKA DNS blacklists) instead.

 To a large degree, that is true. However, the blacklists are dependant
upon the sender/client being in them. It is six of one, and half a dozen
of the other.

>  3. I am using the SpamCop reporting tool[1] to file complaints to ISPs
>     about spam (which specifically includes phishing attacks) that I
>     receive.  SpamCop requires spam samples to be manually checked for
>     spamminess before being reported.  Thus I _do_ want to receive
>     social engineering messages and classify them manually in order to
>     report them to SpamCop.

 Again, good point. However, one could also argue that it should be the
filtering programme which is configurable upon the output from various
softwares.

 I myself, prefer the software as is, and to then work around any specific
requirements in my filtering script. But, as I said, this is just my
personal preference. I think this will probably end up being one of those
discussions with equal amounts on both sides of the camp :)

 The problem with adding more configurable options are that a lot of
people, as some of the questions on the M.L show, leave the default config
as is, and don't realise for a while that the software isn't performing
some function as they expected. It is one of those vicious circles.

Matt
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