Trog schrieb:
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 14:57, Julian Mehnle wrote:


3. I am using the SpamCop reporting tool[1] to file complaints to ISPs
   about spam (which specifically includes phishing attacks) that I
   receive.  SpamCop requires spam samples to be manually checked for
   spamminess before being reported.  Thus I _do_ want to receive social
   engineering messages and classify them manually in order to report
   them to SpamCop.


I am, unfortunately, familiar with SpamCop (and all the other similar
'tools'). As a listed contact for over 16million Internet IP addresses I
receive notices from such 'tools' all the time, and I've *never* had one
that is accurate yet.

They are incredibly dumb pieces of software that achieve nothing other
than annoying innocent sys admins and giving their mis-guided users a
warm feeling. Please stop using them [1].

-trog

[1] Try here for a better header tracer: http://www.3dmail.com/spam/

I have found no problems with spamcop's header parser (always reviewing what it finds). I think they're doing a good job, although I won't trust anybody's RBL _fully_. I built my own, and don't trust even that fully. The drawback is that the only software I know with which I can "score" rbl's is spamassassin, which checks _after_ the mail is received. If anybody knows such a beast (at best a Postfix policy daemon), drop me a line...

Thomas
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