On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 10:08 -0500, Cormack, Ken wrote:

> What filesystem "type" are you using, that the .journal file is visible, in
> the first place?
> 
> I'm assuming you're using the EXT3 filesystem type?  If so, those
> filesystems, IF properly mounted with proper /etc/fstab entries, should
> render the journal invisible to clam (and any other command that operates on
> "files").
> 
> A proper EXT3-appropriate fstab entry should look like this:
> 
>       LABEL=your_label        /mount_point    ext3    defaults        1 2
> 
> If the filesystem is properly mounted as an EXT3 fs type, then doing a "ls
> -al .journal" SHOULD yield a "no such file or directory" error.
> 
> Only when an EXT3 filesystem is IMPROPERLY mounted as an EXT2 filesystem,
> would the journal be visible at all.

If an ext2 fs is converted to an ext3 while it is mounted the .journal
inode cannot be properly hidden.  This actually goes for any mounted
ext2 fs, but the ext3 driver will hide the inode on next mount.  The
problem comes up with the / mount point because it is mounted read only
at boot, and thus is just remounted rw.  So the driver has no chance to
hide the inode.

One way to fix this is to boot from a CD image and then mount straight
out the ext3 file system under the root provided on the boot CD.

-- 
Chris

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