thus Tomasz Kojm spake:
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:51:35 +0200
> Julian Mehnle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Tomasz Kojm wrote:
>>
>>>Michel Arboi wrote:
>>>
>>>>I was about to ask how I can help the project. I will not. I
>>>>think that
>>>>you don't need "bad" people. 
>>>>
>>>>Good bye.
>>>
>>>You're a troll. Go away!
> 
> 
> It's an insolence to cite me out of the real context.
> 
> -- begin --
> 
> From: Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: ClamAV users ML <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: ClamAV users ML <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Re: undetected malwares
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:41:09 +0200
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11cvs5 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu)
> 
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:34:21 +0200
> Michel Arboi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>On 06/06/05, Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>You're distributing malware, so you're bad.
>>
>>Clamav does not even catch half of the worms that are currently in the
>>wild. Most of them are dangerous IRC bots.
>>I was about to ask how I can help the project. I will not. I think
>>that you don't need "bad" people.
>>
>>Good bye.
>>
>>PS: you're distributing an outdated scanner, Im' not sure you are
>>better than me.
> 
> 
> You're a troll. Go away!
> 
> -- end --
> 
> 
>>A tendency to ridicule people who even just remotely insinuate that
>>not everything about ClamAV is perfect can certainly be observed on
>>this mailing list.
> 
> 
> This is not true.

50/50

> 
> What can certainly be observed on this mailing list is a tendency to 
> attack and reproach the developers.

IMHO this is misunderstood then. most of the cases some people ask why
this or that is managed in this or that way and some people have (and
tell) an idea of how to 'improve' (mind the colons) things.

this has nothing in common with criticism of any developer.

> 
> 
>>Don't you notice you are shooting yourself in the foot by alienating
>>people who want to help the project?
> 
> 
> We don't need a help from people who distribute malware on their www
> sites (and even fail to properly classify samples).

hm, but that's up to them. nobody here is responsible for things people
do (on the internet) reading this list.

this would be different if they broadcast their malware in the name of
the ClamAV team etc.

> 
> 
>>I voiced criticism, now call me a troll.
> 
> 
> I've nothing against constructive criticism but the OP's last message
> was a boorishness and not criticism.

cheers,

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