At 10:53 AM 5/17/2006, you wrote:
On Wed, May 17, 2006 1:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> At 10:31 AM 5/17/2006, Daniel T. Staal wrote:
>
>>On Wed, May 17, 2006 1:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>> >
>> > as opposed to annoying "copyright notifications" attached to email
>> > published to mailing lists, that state information that is wholey
>> > meaningless within the context of a publicly distributed mailing
>> > list, so therefore nothing more than junk bytes your forcing
>> > mailservers to digest?
>>
>>Read mine. ;)
>
> that's what i was referring to. it's nothing but junk bytes. it
> accomplishes nothing, and adds *no* useful information to the message.
It does several things: specifically acknowledges the public nature of
email, and clarifies accepted use vs. non-accepted use.
which is pointless within the message itself.
(And yes, the
difference has come up for some people, particularly on email lists.)
Also, it *limits* the copyright term substantially over the normal.
except where copyright law differs. so also meaningless.
These
are all legally useful bits of information, and since I'm *granting* you
rights, should be legally binding. It may not be relevant on any
particular email, but it might be relevant on some, and I have no way of
knowing beforehand which are which.
you do when you're mailing to a publicly distributed mailing list. or
is your MUA deficient?
It also gives my opinion of the more common copyright notices, and my
opinion of the state of copyright law in general. Which is something I
care about, and it does it without getting in your face.
that's certainly arguable, since it's now been reproduce multiple
times to every list member. never mind that it is also published on
list gateway sites such as MARC, which renders its status as email null.
i have lots of opinions on many things. i don't feel the need to
impose them on every recipient of every message i send. maybe i'll
create a new sig for myself:
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This is an email message. it contains words composed
of letters, and I send it using what's known as an MUA. If you
don't know what an MUA is, you might do a google on it. When I
click the "send" button, the message goes out into the great and
good Internet, and some people receive it. People I have not sent
the message to won't receive it, I'm pretty sure of that. I like dogs
and cats. I own one of each. I wonder what the weather will be
like tomorrow. Do you wonder about such things?
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I'd shorten it more, but this is already the short version. It is useless
if it isn't on every - or nearly every - email I send.
It's useless no matter what. But I guess I'll defer to the copyright
attorney you paid to write it. You *did* have an expert on the matter
draft it, right? Or are you a copyright attorney yourself? I'd hate
to see your claims about copyright nullified in a court of law,
because they weren't drafted properly. And of course, if they aren't
accurate or correct, then sending them to everyone is similarly
meaningless - or even potentially damaging to you.
It's as short as I
can make it, and in a place that most people already ignore.
so...you're saying it's useless. if people ignore it, then if they
mistakenly violate the copyright because they didn't read it, they're
guilty not of violating your copyright, but of non-malicious
negligence. excellent way to manage your legal affairs.
It has some
legal effects.
that's debateable. what does your copyright attorney say on the matter?
I figure I've seen worse sigs.
i've see worse, i've seen better. using the "there's worse out there"
to justify a poorly conceived activity is what the road to hell is paved with.
And this one I care about.
okay. well, if you're comfortable spamming thousands of people with
junk bytes each time you post to this list, that's certainly your
prerogative. the first time you posted to the list, you might have
had a valid argument for posting it. subsequent postings of it are
junk. you've already made the claim, distributed to all users of the
list. now you're just ramming it into people's mailboxes for no valid purpose.
Daniel T. Staal
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