Maurice Lucas - TAOS-IT wrote:

 >      I dont know in which world you live ... but in the REAL world i
 live, not all systems are managed by proactive admins. In fact, in the
 REAL world, LOTS of systems are just left alone running. And it works
 most of the time, despite of all the theorical and practical
 considerations against it. I know that isn't right, that isn't secure,
 that's not the optimal situation ..... but thats the REAL situation.

If you don't have the time, knowledge, or whatever. Don't be a sysadmin.

Being a sysadmin for a PRODUCTION server is a real job.
I hire someone to fix my car and repair my roof. Why because I could try and fix something but I know I can't complain if I break something.

Ohh, bad analogy.

According to comments already made, to be a competent car owner you've got to periodically check the websites of all the bits that go into it. So we'll start with (for example) Ford for the base vehicle, and (for example) Michelin for the tyres, and Bosch for the engine management, Girling for the brakes, ....

But then again, if I don't I don't find myself sat in the middle of the road with a dead car - I've yet to hear of a vendor building in a facility with the sole function of bricking your car if you don't keep going to them for updates.

And guess what, when you take your car to be serviced, the guy that services it won't go and check with all the vendors to check, just in case, that someone has plans to remotely brick it in the next 6 months. IFF he's a (say) Ford main dealer then he'll check with Ford if there are any bulletins that apply to it.

 >      despite of all the warnings, the EOL signature was a bad move in
 my opinion.

We are talking about a message send to everyone who cares for there system of October 5th, 2009.

As pointed out, it was ***NOT*** sent to people running the servers - you've done the equivalent of Ford putting a notice up in it's corporate reception and expecting all owners to know about it. Had I known 6 months ago rather than this morning, I'd not be complaining for the simple reason that I'd have been able to deal with it.

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