You got the literal definition of the clamav lists. If you need a political
answer you might be on the wrong list.
dp
On 3/11/16 8:39 AM, Groach wrote:
Hi Dennis
Either you are being very generous on giving information despite it not being
asked for, or you have misunderstood my initial post (in either case, thank
you). My question was really "what is the point of *this* mailing list" in
context of what was written ealier: ie, the "clamav-virusdb" mailing list
(not the clamav-user list). That list contains no useful information
whatsoever to anyone (as outlined in my first post).
On 11/03/2016 17:29, Dennis Peterson wrote:
This is the list clamav users and administrators use to troubleshoot, debug,
install, and configure the product. The support staff also participate and
answer questions that can't be answered by reading the manual. It is intended
for product support. The other lists are for product improvement through
false positive handling and malware sample submissions.
dp
On 3/11/16 12:57 AM, Groach wrote:
Hello
Ok, so I understand the process:
1, If you have a false positive or you have a suspicious file you send it
to ClamAV via the website and wait a few days for them to process it.
2, When they do process it (in theory) you get an email back saying
something to the effect of :
"Dear ClamAV user,
The following submissions have been processed and published:
-
See http://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-virusdb/2016-March/ "
3, By its referenced inclusion, you then go to
http://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-virusdb/2016-March to see some
'details'
But what is the point of this mailing list?
Because it doesnt show anything meaningful within the individual postings:
Example:
Submission-ID: 14926518
Sender: Virus Total
Sender: VirScan.org
Sender: Anonymous
Sender: Paul McKnight
Added: No
(and a LOT of them).
"Submission-ID" - what does that refer to? It certainly isnt a anything
that I received back at time of submitting. Completely ambiguous.
"Sender" - ok, this I accept
"Added" - what does that mean? (In the experience of a recent submission of
mine I received an "Added=no" and I had submitted a False Positive report.
And most entries say "no").
I thought the theory of this mailing list was to allow people to view their
(or any other) submissions with the details yet the details they give have
no use whatsoever beyond that of the 'Sender' ID and the header "ClamAV
database updated..." Date. (And even then the SenderId is no good if you
have done multiple submissions).
And this is all pointless anyway as there is no longer any search facility
any more (I submitted a report and now must go through every entry
individually, doing a CTRL-F search, looking for the Sender id of
interest(!), backwards, and then backout, in to the next posting, and repeat
again...and again....and again...until I find one).
Did anyone actually THINK about the point of publishing this list and
whether it has any use to anyone?
I would like to see something more meaningful where:
a, 'Submission ID' is a reference that is given to the user making the
report in the first place (currently the users dont get anything)
b, 'Added' means something more meaningful that makes it clear whether a new
virus signature has been created, a false positive has been removed, or
whether the submission was just disregarded for some reason (making the
reason clear).
c, Bring back a SEARCH facility so that a user can search for either a
signature definition (when it was added) or their recent submission (to see
if it has been processed yet).
Take this as constructive feedback. But if anyone can give an answer with
convincing reasons as to why this mailing list is of interest to any member
of public, and how they are expected to use it, then Im all ears
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