Hi Andrew,

On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 22:10 +0000, Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> Right, this is probably going to cause a bit more controversy than
> most patches...

:)

> * Change the discussion of releases to refer to 1.0 as a major
> release rather than a public release.  Most of our 0.x releases
> have been pretty public!

Yes, good change. I would actually just call them that in the actual
text:

<P>GNU Classpath is always in progress. The have been various public 0.x
releases, slowly working towards the major 1.0 release. The current
development source code is available via GNU's anonymous
<A href="https://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=classpath";>
CVS server</A> , and periodic public releases of the GNU Classpath tree
are made available on <A
href="ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/classpath/";>ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/classpath/</A>
</P>

> * Switch from using the kaffe.org JAPI results to builder's as
> these currently seem to be dead.  Indeed, anyone clicking on them
> gets a really bad impression that we don't even implement 1.0...
> Unfortunately this means we only have 1.4 and 1.5 results.  If someone
> could run JAPI against OpenJDK6 (e.g. those working on IcedTea), this
> would be much appreciated.  I'd prefer not to link against the OpenJDK
> results as they represent an unstable API in the JDK itself (i.e. there
> are things we shouldn't fix as they are not yet finalised!)

Yes, this is a good idea, and a good suggestion.

> * I changed the Mauve results to point at builder as well.  The previous
> page was nicer looking but antiquated.  If someone wants to revive the older
> page instead, this would be welcomed.

This too.

> * Updated the roadmap and in the process open the discussion of a 1.0 release.
> I think we need to make a firm decision on this if GNU Classpath is to 
> continue.
> A 1.0 release would actually be a good conclusion too, as people move towards
> OpenJDK (which seems to be the case). As you can see from the patch, I suggest
> we make 1.0 a release where the core (java.*) is at the 1.6 level.  If you 
> view
> the current comparisons with 1.5, you will see we are already further along 
> the
> 1.6 path than might be thought, and I think we can achieve this subsection 
> prior
> to a 1.7 JDK being made available.  Other elements, like Swing, would be a 
> bonus.
> More importantly, I suggest we aim to get several applications working well --
> which these are I'll leave to discussion on here, but Eclipse, Tomcat and 
> JBoss seem
> like good choices to me (given we've had efforts on all these already).  
> Without
> making any guarantees this early, the end of the year would be a nice time to
> see this happen.

This might be slightly controversial. Personally I would aim for 1.5
completeness, plus anything 1.6 we have and a stable VM interface.
Hopefully one that will be easy to use for openjdk too. I really like
the addition of the use feedback paragraph.

Thanks,

Mark


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