Brian was only exaggerating by a little bit when he said that Jikes could compile Classpath in 10 seconds. I just clocked it at 30 seconds on my PII-300. This includes creating glibj.zip. You have all got to go download this. I have never seen anything so fast. Unless someone points out something I am missing, the new license qualifies as free, so download that source! I automake-ified jikespg - the parser generator needed for Jikes. If you want to download my version it is at: ftp://ftp.urbanophile.com/pub/arenn/software/sources/jikespg-1.1.tar.gz -- Aaron M. Renn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.urbanophile.com/arenn/