Dalibor, You should be arguing with the OMG, not with me. On second thoughts, that would be a mistake. The typical OMG representative is likely to dismiss the kind of arguments you just made as idealistic claptrap. If you want corporate types to listen to you, you have to talk their language.
Re: the clean-room and copyright issues, it is not just an issue of what you or I think is reasonable. If there is even a POSSIBILITY that a reimplementation of the org.omg interfaces might be raise the ire of the OMG, then we need to be VERY CAUTIOUS. At least clear it with FSF legal. > Classpath doesn't do badges yet :) "Yet" being the operative word, I think. If we are serious about helping people break out of the Sun trap, we are going to have to find a way to get a "badge" for Classpath from Sun. If customers cannot see proof (in the form of a "badge") that a Classpath-based VM passes the Sun JCK, they could just be exchanging one trap for another one by switching VMs. > More poetically spoken, as GNU Classpath is in the trap-smashing > business, it would be a bit self-refuting to exchange the shackles of > the Java trap for the shackles of the CORBA trap, if there is such a > trap. :) ... which suggests yet another option: 5) avoid the CORBA trap by removing all CORBA support from Classpath. Retain our idealogical purity, and let the J2EE crowd be damned to the hell of proprietary JVMs. SEP. For the record, I actually agree with most of what you are saying ... wearing my idealist hat. But if the aim is to find a practical solution to this problem, we are going to have to compromise somewhere. If that entails "kowtowing" to somebody, then maybe we need to be prepared to get our collective foreheads down into the dirt!! -- Steve _______________________________________________ Classpath mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

