theUser BL writes: > > What me everytime wonder is, that GNU Classpath have not its own VM. > > To show the situation so, like I see it: > Suns Java comes as a complete package, which includes the Classes _and_ the > JVM. > Mono comes as a complete package, which includes the .net-classes and the > mono-runtime. > > Only with GNU Classpath it looks a little bit different. > > At first the developer changed the GNU Classpath code on any JVM, so that is > no longer compatible to the old one. > So, when a new GNU Classpath version is released, there existing at first, > no JVMs on which it can run. > > After the release, the first JVMs are using the new Classpath version in its > CVS. And later some using the new one. And some are being on older one > (GCC-20050909 used still 0.17; SableVM used still 0.16 in CVS) > > >From the new versions, which use 0.17 or 0.18, I can either not compile it > or it (like JamVM), or it have problems with AWT and Swing (IKVM). > And a CVS-version of Kaffe I have not tried. But Kaffe 1.1.5 don't run Swing > programs on my computer. > > So I asked myself, what JVM does the GNU Classpath developer use? > They can not use a JVM, which still have a old version of GNU Classpath > (like SableVM or Gcj).
gcj doesn't have an old version of Classpath; it's been changed so that it comes with a recent tested version, and you can drop Classpath CVS in if you wish. > And I don't understand, why GNU Classpath comes not with its own JVM. You're missing the whole idea of Classpath, which is to provide a set of class libraries for free VMs. In this regard it is no different from glibc, which is a C library, not a C compiler. > Other JVMs can then always later bringing GNU Classpath to its own JVM. > But at first it need a JVM as basis. > > And it is not so, that GNU Classpath includes only the platformindependent > parts. > The native libs like gtkpeers.so are existing, too. Why not then additionaly > having the own JVM, which is then the standard JVM for GNU Classpath? Keeping a clean separation between VM and library is a good idea. The problem that we are all trying to solve is to make sure that Classpath runs "out of the box" on the free VMs. We're getting there. Andrew. _______________________________________________ Classpath mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
