On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 13:25 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 02:49 +0200, Robert Schuster wrote: > > GNU Classpath Meeting Minutes from 2005-10-07 17:00 UTC > > Thanks for making the minutes Robert. > > > Basically, Mark explained, he could not believe that everything is going on > > smoothly. He studied Apache's procedures and asked the attendents whether > > these > > would be useful for Classpath, too. > > > > However everybody seemed happy with the way it is and Mark was a surprized > > that > > people seem so happy to hack on GNU Classpath while the project has no real > > formal structure. > > Just to be clear. There is a "formal structure" as outlined in our > Hacking Guide <http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/docs/hacking.html>. > But we are very light on procedures. Basically the only formality is > making sure the legal side is correctly handled. After that the "rules" > are more like gentlemen agreements. We expect people to play nice, > listen to each other and take each others opinion seriously. > This seems to work just fine. Tom Tromey said that we should not impose > any extra procedures unless there is a clear need. For example because > people are actively behaving in an "anti-social" manner. And that time > has (luckily!) not come. > > > Mark was worried about introducing dependencies on Gtk+-2.8 and Cairo-1.0.0 > > . > > These would be a necessity of the AWT rework[0]. Sven added that he does not > > expect these changes before 0.19 . > > > > Unfortunately Thomas was not present to discuss the item so we remained at > > postponing any major AWT rework to a time after the November release. > > Lets try a release in the first week of November then. We could set the > release date a bit earlier if Tom, or anybody else, wants to start the > migration to 2.8 earlier. Just to make sure that we have one more > release that doesn't need a "bleeding edge" gtk+ version. But we will > need modern versions of various libraries in the end anyway to support > all the cool stuff we want to have. So we could also just bite the > bullet early if that is more convenient.
I'm fine with postponing the GTK 2.8 migration until after a November release. I think this will be a major refactoring of GdkGraphics2D that will have to be done all at once, so I can commit it just after the next release and leave lots of time for debugging before the subsequent GTK2.8-enabled release. > > > Integration of GNU Crypto was mentioned and that we have to wait for Casey's > > rewrite of it. Mark stated that Casey would be the only one being able to > > do the > > integration nicely. > > s/GNU Crypto/Jessie/ > Casey Marshall is working on NIO support in Jessie > <http://jessie.nongnu.org/>. Jessie is packaged for the various > distributions. But various people (on the Jessie mailinglist) had > trouble getting the latest release integrated with the latest inetlib > and classpath releases. Actually I'd like to see the bits of GNU Crypto that Classpath and Jessie require merged in as well. I believe that was also on Casey's roadmap. Tom _______________________________________________ Classpath mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
