Hi Casey, Am Dienstag, den 31.01.2006, 12:37 -0800 schrieb Casey Marshall: > On Jan 31, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Roman Kennke wrote: > > > Hi Brian, hi list, > > > >> Yea, I think the point for me would be to keep Classpath's java > >> hackers > >> out of the business of writing native code, and especially out of the > >> business of porting native code for such common idioms as generic > >> file > >> operations, network operations, etc. > > > > BTW, Torsten, the man who first wrote the target native layer, mostly > > works on native code and porting of this to platforms you would not > > dream of. > > That is arrogant. I'm sure everyone here who hacks on Classpath has > worked with interesting technologies, and are all great engineers, > each in his own right. > > So let's stop measuring cocks here, OK?
Sorry, I didn't want to sound arrogant or whatnot. I am only a bit upset about this braindead discussion again. I get the impression that there is a general opposition against real portability concerns within the GNU (Classpath?) project. Correct me if I am wrong. There certainly are parties that have portability demands that go beyong posix. Granted, Aicas is a commercial party and cannot publish every port. There is also Kaffe, which is 100% GPL and now also suggest something similar like the target layer, only somewhat nicer, and again it seems to turn out to be a fight against windmills. But after all, that is what we have the VM interface for and I for myself don't want to discuss C issues anymore and instead concentrate on getting the VM interface into a good shape (it already is IMO, needs some tweaks though) and let people with different opinions on native code fork/implement their own stuff below the VM interface. Cheers, Roman
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