Thanks Martin for a detailed reply. sorry for the delay ( due to time zone
difference)

I understand about the boundaries and objectives of the clear water
project. So, with that perspective, my question is still a deviation from
the scope and the objectives you have described.

Anyway, i am duty bound to give you an answer/update you with my
perspective about my recommendations. May be once your current objectives
of the clear water project are met, then these recommendations may bring
out some relevancy.

1. QoS - SCP - a larger perspective over and above the session charging
function. It is about the service control function interface. ( from the
service stratum), since the core IMS interfaces  with the Virtual network
and transport interfaces in this proposed implementation. Particularly the
QoS signalling set to be handled by the Admission control function (more
than the admission decisions, the inherited QoS decisions) of the NGN core
policy decision and QoS enforcement engine. The use case is obvious one
like service mobility over HetNet environment, which is essentially  the
way forward.

2. I accept your view on my second recommendation. since from my
perspective it will be an equally important but relevant to my first
recommendations. In addition to the P-preferred Identify  of the SDP
capability which is a first step towards handling and managing multiple but
associated end points for one or more sessions, the value of managing
multiple PUI for multiple device or service end points based on any
specific of particular user profile and its associated signalling and QoS
may make the enforcement a bit complex. Anyway that is not the current
focus of clear water. I understand.

3. Thanks. I may be more interested in taking a serious part when you are
doing the IOT with MGCP and also during its preparation. If possible, i
would be more than willing to see the code base for its readiness and any
value add..

Thanks
Chandra


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Martin Taylor <[email protected]
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> It would be helpful to get a bit more information from you about the use
> cases that you have in mind for items (1) and (2) on your list, but I’ll
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> Item (1) is concerned with the Session Charging Function, which is defined
> in IMS as an Application Server that keeps an eye on session usage for each
> pre-paid subscriber and tears down sessions when credit runs out.   We can
> imagine a use case where QoS is reduced once credit runs out – is this what
> you have in mind?  However it’s not clear how you would signal that change
> of QoS from the SCF through the IMS core.  In any case, SCF is, by
> necessity, a dialog-stateful entity and because of this we would not plan
> to implement it as part of Clearwater.  The Clearwater architecture is
> transaction-stateful only, and this is what makes it possible to scale out
> in the Cloud very straightforwardly, so we don’t really want to compromise
> that.  In other words, we view SCF as out of scope for Clearwater, but you
> could certainly connect an SCF to Clearwater’s ISC interface.****
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> which would typically talk to a Policy and Charging Rules Function and is
> therefore in a good position to request different QoS levels for different
> public identities.  It isn’t clear to us that this would be all that useful
> though, since a given user can signal any P-Preferred-Identity that it owns
> and hence would be in a position to “cheat” if you had different QoS
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> On item (3), Clearwater does already implement a very basic BGCF which
> simply uses ENUM to drive decisions on routing to other networks.  It is
> our intention that Clearwater supports the Mg and Mj interfaces towards the
> MGCF and in principle that function is already present in the codebase,
> although we still have some work to do to ensure that we actually interop
> with real-world MGCFs.  We will be testing with Metaswitch’s Media Gateway
> Controller product (
> http://www.metaswitch.com/sites/default/files/Metaswitch-IMS-MGCF.pdf) in
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> Martin****
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chandra
> Pillai
> *Sent:* 10 June 2013 14:15
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Clearwater] Fwd: Signup at Project Clearwater****
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> 2. QoS in a situation like multiple Public ids associated for different
> end user application with one private id
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