IMO 99% of the users (of an application based on apache clerezza) has
no idea what an openid or webid is. the users are not ready yet for
such cutting-edge technologies so we have to hide it. The dilemma is
they have to use custom applications developed by third party company.


On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Tsuyoshi Ito <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Tsuyoshi Ito <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Users as BNodes are very troublesome in the daily business especially
>> >> if apps using their own graphs. I know in theory it makes sense to
>> >> have users as BNodes but i suggest not to use users as BNodes in
>> >> praxis.
>> >>
>> > I think its completely ok not to offer some functionality to users as
>> long
>> > as they don't have a WebId, this is what is currently done  (without
>> WebId
>> > no user graphs).
>>
>> Missunderstanding, try to explain it: Developers creating apps. these
>> apps associate users with content in their own graphs therefore a
>> BNode with the necessary data of a user has to be stored in the app
>> graph. Methods have to be implemented to retrieve users and associate
>> them with the system graph users. This procedure is error-prone.
>>
>> Therefore I suggest not to use Bnodes as default option because it
>> makes the live a lot easier for the developers.
>>
> I see this, this is why I suggest the application makes its functionality
> depending on the availability of a URI for the user. If a User without URI
> attempts to use the application she can either create a new WebId or connect
> with her existing WebId/OpenId (of course the application has just to
> redirect to the profile page).
>
> Cheers,
> reto
>



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