On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Henry Story <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 6 Apr 2011, at 09:02, Hasan Hasan wrote: > > Hi Henry > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Henry Story <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I'd say the account control panel is also in progress. >> > > ok, I'll change its state in the issue if it hasn't been done yet. > >> >> Though I think it should be easy to divide the 'experimental' part form >> the 'stable' part. >> (The whole of Clerezza is pretty experimental, so of course those >> distinctions are very arbitrary) >> > > We have been developing Clerezza for more than 2 years now. Some parts of > the code may be experimental, > but I wouldn't agree that the whole is experimental. > > > What about 'original' ? > > "Large parts of Clerezza are original." Sounds better :-) > > > >> >> It also depends on what the timetable for the release is. >> > > Clerezza entered Apache incubator, if I can correctly recall, around > November 2009. I would really like to see that after more than one year, we > are able to provide a release version. > > I fully understand. That's why I pointed out to early June in another > thread yesterday as a good time to release as there is a Federated Social > Web conference that really needs the features that Clerezza has put > together. > I hope so regarding the conference participants. I assume you'll participate in the conf and either in a formal or informal way you'd like to tell or demonstrate to them the capability of clerezza. Surely, by early June, we will have a more "stable" version of features you want to show or tell and that they can play with. However, a company (the initiator) is using Clerezza in at least two of its projects and would like to see a stable version of Clerezza, the sooner the better. I wonder what others think about the release deadline. > What we are building here are a few simple demos that show why one needs > something like ZZ, and cannot do without. They will make sense of ZZ to > people without needing to give them large theoretical demonstrations and > explanations. This hopefully will pull a lot of developers, so we can > progress more quickly. > Your efforts and others in the community in building such demos are very much appreciated. I do see the potentials of such demos to attract more developers and in the end will benefit us as well. cheers hasan > Henry > > > cheers > hasan > >> >> Henry >> >> >> On 5 Apr 2011, at 11:03, Hasan Hasan wrote: >> >> > Dear All >> > >> > We have been very late in providing a release version of Apache >> Clerezza. >> > I'd like to push a bit our efforts in this direction. >> > >> > 1) New release date >> > A separate email will be sent around to request votes on a new release >> date >> > >> > 2) Included modules >> > All modules listed in the release profile (pom.xml of parent), see also >> > CLEREZZA-485 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-485>. >> > I suggest, if a module is not ready on the release date, it is taken out >> of >> > the release version >> > in order to NOT delay releasing Apache Clerezza any further. >> > >> > I think it is important to assign one or two responsible persons to each >> > module. >> > To start, I'll assign our names to each module in >> > CLEREZZA-485<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-485> >> > . >> > Feel free to update or add your names to those modules that you want to >> be >> > responsible for. >> > >> > 3) Functionality within modules >> > I suggest that for the time being no additional features are added to >> the >> > module, but let us >> > concentrate on bug fixing and performance improvement. >> > >> > 4) API >> > I recommend to not alter any API intended for application developers. >> API >> > intended for use within Clerezza >> > may be changed if needed, but should be avoided. >> > >> > Further suggestions? >> > >> > Kind regards >> > Hasan >> >> Social Web Architect >> http://bblfish.net/ >> >> > > Social Web Architect > http://bblfish.net/ > >
