On 7 Jun 2011, at 13:32, Tsuyoshi Ito wrote:

> Hi Henry
> 
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Henry Story <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> Each of these depend somewhat on the other, and there are 1000s of ways to
>> implement them. What is important is to implement something to demo, then
>> one can refactor later.
> 
> The trunk is not a sandbox to play around.

I am not playing around. I spent 6 months learning ZZ which is not an easy 
framework. The documentation for it has only just been made available. 

My aim from the beginning was very clear: to add those distributed social 
network features, and I have been consistently implementing those, hoping for 
feedback  along the way, to see how to do this in ZZ the best way. Of course 
this is quite different from anything that you may have seen before, and builds 
on the semantic web in a very serious way. Tim Berners Lee introduced the 
Berlin conference shortly and emphasized the importance of WebID a few times to 
the Social Web. 

ZZ being a Semantic Web CMS will need these tools in the core in order to allow 
flexible distributed access control. Virtuoso OpenLink already has these built 
in. But building them does of course bring up some limitations in the current 
framework. 

> Especially if you add a lot of new features or change existing code you 
> should work in an issue as we all
> do (I don't know if this was the case here).

I have a local sandbox where I tested my code before adding it to the trunk. 
Very little of the
code I commited broke anything, and when it did it was fixed quickly. But I 
can't add these interesting features both in small steps, and simultaneously 
have it all working perfectly as I go along. 

So perhaps I should come over to Switerzerland, and we should discuss how we 
can integrate these features more consistenly. There are quite a few places 
where we need to work with interaction designers to make the user experience 
consistent. But without a prototype it is difficult to explain how these 
features need to work to interaction designers for them to be able to 
contribute.

I am happy to work together with people to build this. But I can't both do it 
all myself and do it quickly in one step.

Henry

> 
> cheers
> tsuy

Social Web Architect
http://bblfish.net/

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