Please bear with me. This takes a while to weave. Using SVN-20090921-x86_64-Multilib. Host system is Ubuntu-9.04 with kernel 2.6.28.15-generic.

Things developed smoothly in Ch 10 with all test suites passing until I got to binutils. Yes, I got the dreaded pty message when I ran <expect -c "spawn ls"> [BTW this is the first time in any of my LFS builds that I received this message. Lucky?]. So the first thing I did was go to the LFS FAQ's and used the one on how to recover. Grepping through the kernel config file I discovered that UNIX98-PTYS was configured, but that there was no entry, I mean NO ENTRY for DEVPTS--configured or not. Hmm, I says. But I thought that I remembered that DEVPTS was deprecated and UDEV was going to take its place and that DEVPTS was included in the kernels--two years ago--for compatibility. and I ran <mount> with no options. One of the results was

devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)

So I went forward in the FAQ.

Both /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts existed and had the permissions noted in the FAQ. I changed ${CLFS}/etc/group so that the tty group had gid=5--to match Ubuntu.

Still got the dreaded message. Next step was <man mount>. Interesting info:

 Note  that  the filesystem mount options will remain the same as
 those on the original mount point,  and  cannot  be  changed  by
  passing the -o option along with --bind/--rbind.
Since the command in Ch. 8.3, "Mounting the Virtual Kernel File Systems is <mount -v -o bind /dev ${CLFS/dev}> and devpts was mounted with "noexec, nosuid" in the host system, I wondered if this was "leaking through" to chroot environment and screwing up my ability to test. Leaving out the gorey details, the only way I could manage to eliminate the dreaded message was to use the LFS commands to mount the filesystems:

mount -vt devpts devpts $CLFS/dev/pts
mount -vt tmpfs shm $CLFS/dev/shm
mount -vt proc proc $CLFS/proc
mount -vt sysfs sysfs $CLFS/sys
after mounting /dev. BUT my binutils--didn't try gcc--tests still showed the same results.

So, if the Ubuntu devpts mount options--for a file system that's not even , nor can be, configured--are "leaking through" then simply change the entry in /etc/fstab--only there isn't one. I still haven't found where the Ubuntu puts default mount points and options nor how to change them. So I decided to add an entry to fstab. Didn't work. Running <mount> still gave the noexec and no suid options for devpts. BTW I added the line

devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5, mode=620 00

Devpts was still mounted with the original options. I'm trying to find out how to change this, but that's a question for a different venue. [Rant]It's things like this that lead me to LFS in the first place and now I'm spoiled.[/Rant]

Barring any other options, I think that the only way to proceed is to use the "boot" method for CLFS. Then I'm assured that my host system won't get through.

Am I missing anything? Does anyone have any other options that I might try? I'm really interested in how DEVPTS gets into Ubuntu since you can't configure and how to change fstab. I'll go to the ubuntu forums for that--hopefully on a "not to delay my CLFS build. But I sure would appreciate any suggestions on tests that I can run to focus down to the problem of not being able to proceed or any other way of trying to figure out what the problem is.

Actually, the way I see it is that binutils and gcc were fine. It's just that I can't test them, and I don't want to proceed unless I'm sure about them. All other test suites came through with shining colors.


Thanks,
Dan
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