The most productivity gain I had with clojure/clojurescript is when I used them 
together, especially when I can write in portable CLJ/CLJS, which is also a 
great tool to find the subtle differences between clojure and clojurescript.

To me it was a dream to have a good lisp in the browser instead of a bad lisp 
in C dress. Now I have it and it's also amazingly fast. So, who could be more 
happy than me ;-).

mimmo

On Jan 25, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Gary Trakhman <[email protected]> wrote:

> I get more productivity out of the other incidental (by design) 'features' or 
> side-benefits of clojure than just macros, which is what Paul is talking 
> about. 
> 
> Like... immutable data means I never have to worry about a class of things 
> going wrong, which speeds debugging.
> 
> I like what Paul's saying, but it's more complicated than that.
> 
> There's no one lib in clojure that I couldn't use before that I feel would be 
> a big enough argument for switching to clojure.
> 
> But, overall, I feel I am much more productive because of clojure's design 
> choices, I imagine Clojurescript is no different, and if it is, whatever's 
> painful there will also be painful in javascript (which is pretty close to a 
> lisp anyway).
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Joel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Anyone feel like they are getting the efficiencies and described by Paul 
> Graham by using ClojureScript?:
> http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html
> 
> Compojure to me appears to be a standard framework just written in another 
> language, so I don't see the benefit. Om, however, seems really slick by 
> leveraging ReactJS. Any large apps being written with it? (I think its too 
> new to have any in production I'd imagine)
> 
> J
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