On Sunday, November 30, 2014 6:42:52 AM UTC+2, James MacAulay wrote:
> On Saturday, 29 November 2014 08:44:42 UTC-5, Nikita Dudnik  wrote:
> > I don't think FRP and virtual-dom based frameworks are mutually exclusive 
> > approaches to building front-ends. React (or any stand-alone implementation 
> > of a virtual-dom) is perfectly combinable with FRP. Just keep your app's 
> > state in one place, update it using your FR logic, use v-dom to rerender 
> > everything when state changes.
> 
> I've been building a port of Elm's FRP system to Clojure/ClojureScript, and 
> this is the approach I've been taking so far:
> 
> https://github.com/jamesmacaulay/zelkova/blob/d683225ff26c4af13d5d94d801b6dfc48b801bb8/examples/drag-and-drop/src/drag_and_drop/core.cljs#L102-L169
> 
> I think there's a lot of potential with approaches like this.
> 
> > But talking about ClojureScript there is no need for FRP because core.async 
> > is much easier to learn and reason about.
> 
> I think it's probably true that core.async is easier to learn at first, for 
> most people. But once you're comfortable with both of them, I think FRP 
> systems *can be* a lot easier to reason about. I consider core.async to be a 
> good low-level system for co-ordinating events, but everything you do with it 
> requires poking channels with "the mutating stick," with all the complexity 
> that entails.
> 
> FRP has its own conceptual hurdles, but I find the fact that FRP signal 
> values are immutable is a huge win (immutable in the sense that composing 
> signals together doesn't change how they behave). That being said, FRP is 
> much newer territory than CSP, so if you're building applications with it 
> top-to-bottom then you're likely to run into a number of problems whose 
> solutions are still open research topics :P

Here's another elm library https://github.com/ericnormand/elm-frp

Hopefully i'll get to use one of these with om soon, could make reasoning with 
multiple inputs quite nice.

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