Yes! totally agreed, and I'd like to see the article making that clear, and then it'll be an insightful article my opinion, especially for those who may not have seen jade/haml style templating.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Johan Berling <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. I think you are right, it is an unfocused > article. I understand if you do not get my point, and I will not publish it. > > What I tried to say, was that embedded templates makes it easier to > structure our application code, than templates written in a more > traditional way. > > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Marc Fawzi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Some semantic confusion on my part. Sorry. >> >> I use the word "template" to refer strictly to out-of-language templates >> like HTML markup prototypes that can be cloned, augmented and populated >> based on data, or the old string substitution and innerHTML type templates. >> I have not yet started referring to DSLs as templating systems, but you're >> right they are. >> >> For me, being new to ClojureScript, all the code pasted below looks just >> like ClojureScript. If I didn't know about Reagent I would think that >> ClojureScripts came with HAML/Jade like support built-in. >> >> The Kioo project is interesting but just like your imagined future >> version of Javascript and just like JSX it does not gel/jell well with the >> host language. Visually and mentally, it's hard for me to read anything >> other than the Jade/Reagent style code. >> >> I love Reagent for the simple reason that when I read the stuff below I >> simply do not get STRESSED out >> >> (defn form [field-wrapper fields] >> [:form (map field-wrapper fields) >> [:button {:type "submit"}]) >> >> (defn wrapper [{:keys [label-text input]}] >> [:label >> [:span label-text] >> input]) >> >> [form wrapper >> [{:label-text "Name", :input [:input {:type "text"}]} >> {:label-text "City", :input [:input {:type "text"}]} >> {:label-text "Age" , :input [:input {:type "text"}]}]] >> >> It's very pretty and clear from a symbolic/cognitive point of view. >> >> But I have to say I fail to zoom in on the point of the article. What is >> the argument you're making? If it's that JSX is like Reagent then I >> strongly disagree, even if they are logically doing the same thing. It's >> just that when I look I JSX I want to run away and when I look at Reagent I >> have that pleasant feeling you mentioned. They're a world apart in terms of >> the intangible feel. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Marc Fawzi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> At last SF CLJS meetup Sean Grove mentioned to me a framework called >>> Kioo https://github.com/ckirkendall/kioo which is for Om which >>> introduces another kind templates >>> >>> In our team, we create the HTML markup and assign CSS classes the >>> designers make visual mock ups, so "templating" is not necessary to expose >>> markup to designers etc, and I find the hiccup syntax (I'm familiar with >>> Jade) pleasant. >>> >>> I've asked others who are more conversant in Reagent/CLJS to take a look >>> too, >>> >>> Will let you know of any input! >>> >>> Marc >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Johan Berling <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marc! >>>> >>>> Don't expect it to be a good introduction to Reagent. >>>> >>>> By the way, I think your choice is a wise one. Reagent is really nice >>>> to work with. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Marc Fawzi <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi John, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for sharing your work in progress. >>>>> >>>>> Tomorrow I'll dedicate a couple hours to go over this, and I'll review >>>>> it as a brand new user of CLJS/Reagent/React, and at least give you >>>>> feedback about clarity. >>>>> >>>>> I don't think we'll be using JSX but I'm very open minded to see what >>>>> you've worked out! >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> Marc >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:38 AM, John <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi everybody! >>>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to write an article about a topic I find interesting: >>>>>> embedded templates. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please, read and give me feedback, if you find the topic interesting. >>>>>> English is not my first language, and I would appreciate all help to make >>>>>> it clearer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does it make sense? Or should I try to make the examples better? Does >>>>>> anyone agree with me? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://medium.com/@johanberling/embedded-templates-in-react-12ca529df234 >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient >>>>>> with your first post. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "ClojureScript" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient >>>>> with your first post. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "ClojureScript" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojurescript/huTCgQic1wc/unsubscribe >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hälsningar >>>> Johan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>>> your first post. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ClojureScript" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript. >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "ClojureScript" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojurescript/huTCgQic1wc/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript. >> > > > > -- > Hälsningar > Johan > > -- > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ClojureScript" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript. > -- Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ClojureScript" group. 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