Subscribing to subscriptions is very useful and works great. 

On Mar 27, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Colin Yates <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is it ok to reference subscriptions in another subscription? I can't
> see any conceptual reason why not but better safe than sorry...
> 
> On 27 March 2015 at 21:15, Mike Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 7:52:13 AM UTC+11, Colin Yates wrote:
>>> Hi Mike, yep, that is what I meant by "> I can work around this - the
>>> subscription code typically delegates to a 'plain' defn so I can
>>> retrieve the data from the db and call the same defn, but sometimes
>>> that jars a bit." :).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27 March 2015 at 20:47, Mike Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 7:36:26 AM UTC+11, Colin Yates wrote:
>>>>> I have various chunks of reference data, say a tree or a list of _all_ 
>>>>> (i.e. active and historical) entities. I then have various subscriptions 
>>>>> which refine that view, for example:
>>>>> - only active
>>>>> - only active but including a given id
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the handler I sometimes need access to this data, but according to the 
>>>>> re-frame doc:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Rules:
>>>>> 
>>>>> components never source data directly from app-db, and instead, they use 
>>>>> a subscription.
>>>>> subscriptions are only ever used by components (they are never used in, 
>>>>> say, event handlers)."
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can work around this - the subscription code typically delegates to a 
>>>>> 'plain' defn so I can retrieve the data from the db and call the same 
>>>>> defn, but sometimes that jars a bit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The fact it is useful for me to do something not only discouraged but 
>>>>> actively against the rules makes me question my design somewhat; what is 
>>>>> the rationale for not allowing an event handler to view a subscription? 
>>>>> Am I wrong in viewing a subscription as merely a view on the data in 
>>>>> which case I don't see the danger...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I get that components should be divorced from the structure of the DB and 
>>>>> event handlers necessarily need to know the structure but I see a 
>>>>> subscriptions as more than just structure - it sometimes applies 
>>>>> transformations that I would want to re-use.
>> 
>> I'll expand ...
>> 
>> Think about a subscription handler as:
>>   1.  A query function  (db) -> val  ...
>>   2.  some reaction wrapping around the outside
>> 
>> The reaction wrapping is very useful for when you need "a stream" of updates 
>> over time. Components need to get a told when "app-db" changes.
>> 
>> But event handlers don't need a stream. They need a one-off value, based off 
>> the db param they have been supplied.
>> 
>> If you do try to use a subscription in an event handler, you'll get a memory 
>> leak.  The reaction won't get properly "disposed" (it is automatically done 
>> for you when a Signal chain feeds through into a component).
>> 
>> So, repeating myself:  event handlers don't need a constant stream of 
>> updates. They don't need a subscription.  All they need to do is call a 
>> function on "db" to get a value, so factor that function out of the 
>> subscription and make it available.
>> 
>> --
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
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