----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthias Runge" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:45:13 AM
> Subject: Re: PRD use cases
> 
> On 12/09/2013 08:39 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > Right now, the example use case we have is "cloud image on AWS". This
> > suggests that we should have a parallel "cloud image on OpenStack" as
> > another primary target, but then as I went to fill that in, I thought...
> > maybe this is going about this wrong. I think this is a step or two too low
> > level. How about instead, we make the use case be
> > 
> > * Web Application Deployment in a Public Cloud
> 
> > * Web Application Deployment in Hybrid Cloud
> 
> > 
> > * Separate use case for Private Cloud?
> 
> > 
> > * Non-web applications? Data crunching?
> 
> > * Docker Container Host
> 
> > 
> > * Something with Vagrant?
> 
> Two short thoughts about this:
> - do we really need to distinguish between public, private and hybrid
> cloud? IMHO that shouldn't really matter for the image.

In my opinion there really should be different images for the public cloud (and 
maybe even cloud-specific images) and private cloud. This is actually a whole 
other discussion that's gone on in the past, so this might not be the best 
place for the discussion about splitting out the images, though. My general 
take on it is that there are fundamental things (like enabling iptables by 
default) that need to happen on only on one "type" of cloud. The alternative to 
creating completely separate images is using cloud-init to alter what's running 
in the image at boot.

> 
> Additional use cases:
> * Database application
> * mail server (yes, that's really old school), like smtp, imap,
> spamassassin, etc.
> * is there a use case for virtual desktops?

+1 to all of these use cases. There's another important one that I don't think 
we've touched on yet, which is short-lived nodes used for data-processing as 
part of a pipeline. IMO we should put particular focus on that type of workload 
because Fedora is the first distro that has lots of pieces of the needed 
infrastructure for pipeline "big data" processing available in our repos.

> 
> In General, I'd say, everything the server WG targets to would be
> applicable for the cloud image, too (except cloud infra providing).
> 
> Matthias
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