I can't make it ot the meeting today Sorry! Zack Cylinder Cloudbakers Cloud Training Specialist
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:28 AM, <cloud-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Send cloud mailing list submissions to > cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > cloud-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cloud-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cloud digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: tunir tests: what's this useradd-not-found failure? > (Trishna Guha) > 2. Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas (Thomas Mueller) > 3. [atomic-wg] Issue #173 `Fedora Cloud Base Vagrant Boxes Don't Allow > Vagrant User To su To Other Users` > (Dusty Mabe) > 4. [atomic-wg] Issue #173 `Fedora Cloud Base Vagrant Boxes Don't Allow > Vagrant User To su To Other Users` > (Trishna Guha) > 5. Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas (Matthew Miller) > 6. Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas (Thomas Mueller) > 7. Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas (Dusty Mabe) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 10:54:11 +0530 > From: Trishna Guha <trishnaguh...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: tunir tests: what's this useradd-not-found failure? > To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org>, Matthew Miller > <mat...@fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: > <CAHNm_w=1fP48vhGtMjceB-qR=e1HbHm0pK58SKFTqKk3Nt_cmQ@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> > wrote: > > I'm looking at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs/740, where > > there is a failure in the Fedora Cloud Base vagrant-libvirt image (yet > > vagrant-virtualbox and others are fine). > > > > The specific failure (with whitespace removed) from > > https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs/1984/output is: > > > > command: ## sudo python3 -m unittest > > tunirtests.nongatingtests.TunirNonGatingtestaudit -v > > status: False > > test_audit (tunirtests.nongatingtests.TunirNonGatingtestaudit) > > Tests audit ... FAIL > > ====================================================================== > > FAIL: test_audit (tunirtests.nongatingtests.TunirNonGatingtestaudit) > > Tests audit > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/home/vagrant/tunirtests/nongatingtests.py", line 265, in > test_audit > > self.assertIn('useradd', f) > > AssertionError: 'useradd' not found in '' > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ran 1 test in 0.140s > > FAILED (failures=1) > > > > How is it that useradd is not found in this image but everything else > > works and other images are fine? > > > > Interestingly this test passes for me: > > [vagrant@localhost ~]$ sudo python3 -m unittest > tunirtests.nongatingtests.TunirNonGatingtestaudit -v > test_audit (tunirtests.nongatingtests.TunirNonGatingtestaudit) > Tests audit ... ok > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ran 1 test in 0.280s > > OK > > Also I have tested the commands and checked the audit log *manually* > which looks fine to me (Nothing missing in there). > Not sure why it failed on autocloud. > > > -- > Regards, > Trishna Guha > > trishnaguh...@gmail.com > trishnag.wordpress.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 09:43:47 +0100 > From: Thomas Mueller <tho...@chaschperli.ch> > Subject: Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas > To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: <ab815037-c074-9064-f611-3c9511c98...@chaschperli.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Hi Dusty > > Am 31.01.2017 um 19:05 schrieb Dusty Mabe > > > On 01/30/2017 04:00 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> Wasn't the fedora/25-cloud-base updated too? > >> > >> https://atlas.hashicorp.com/fedora/boxes/25-cloud-base lists v20161122 > >> (last release 2 months ago). > > Hi Thomas, > > > > Unfortunately we only officially "release" the Atomic images every two > > weeks. We'd like to release the cloud base image more often but don't > > currently have enough resources to QA them and produce them more > > regularly. > > > > Note: We do regularly build the cloud images as part of the 2 week atomic > > process, but we don't officially "release" them. > > what is the work to be done to QA the release? > > we use the fedora vagrant boxes to run acceptance tests for e.g. the > selinux module (https://github.com/voxpupuli/puppet-selinux). > > Also download numbers on atlas indicate more interest for cloud-base > than atomic for vagrant. > > > - Thomas > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:31:13 +0000 (UTC) > From: Dusty Mabe <pag...@pagure.io> > Subject: [atomic-wg] Issue #173 `Fedora Cloud Base Vagrant Boxes Don't > Allow Vagrant User To su To Other Users` > To: cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: > <atomic-wg-ticket-9ec1ed8774ce461b8dc074191ddc10d9-71820@pagure> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following: > `` > trishnag, currently still the same - it won't matter if we fix it now > because we have not been releasing cloud base images so even if we fix it > it would not get released for the cloud base image until f26. That is > unless we decide to release a newer version of the cloud base image > > `` > > To reply, visit the link below or just reply to this email > https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/173 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:33:16 +0000 (UTC) > From: Trishna Guha <pag...@pagure.io> > Subject: [atomic-wg] Issue #173 `Fedora Cloud Base Vagrant Boxes Don't > Allow Vagrant User To su To Other Users` > To: cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: > <atomic-wg-ticket-9ec1ed8774ce461b8dc074191ddc10d9-71821@pagure> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > trishnag added a new comment to an issue you are following: > `` > @dustymabe ACK! I have the PR ready for the test > https://github.com/kushaldas/tunirtests/pull/58 > `` > > To reply, visit the link below or just reply to this email > https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/173 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 08:41:46 -0500 > From: Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> > Subject: Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas > To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: <20170203134146.ga5...@mattdm.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 09:43:47AM +0100, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > Also download numbers on atlas indicate more interest for cloud-base > > than atomic for vagrant. > > Part of that might be self-reenforcing, as there haven't been enough > downloads of Atomic yet to bump it to the front page when you search > for "Fedora". > > Is there any way to get download numbers over time? That would be very > interesting. > > -- > Matthew Miller > <mat...@fedoraproject.org> > Fedora Project Leader > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 15:19:47 +0100 > From: Thomas Mueller <tho...@chaschperli.ch> > Subject: Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas > To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: <0163a162-81fe-4fc2-08c3-ea128a990...@chaschperli.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Am 03.02.2017 um 14:41 schrieb Matthew Miller: > > On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 09:43:47AM +0100, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >> Also download numbers on atlas indicate more interest for cloud-base > >> than atomic for vagrant. > > Part of that might be self-reenforcing, as there haven't been enough > > downloads of Atomic yet to bump it to the front page when you search > > for "Fedora". > Google Search: Fedora Atomic > > * (1st hit: www.projectatomic.io/) > * 2nd hit: https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/ > * click: download now > * click: vagrant downloads > * click: View downloads using vagrant tools > > Google Search: Fedora Cloud > * (first hit: fedora atomic (https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/)) > * 2nd hit: https://getfedora.org/de/cloud/download (redirect to > https://alt.fedoraproject.org/de/cloud/) > * no information about howto use with vagrant directly, only possiblity > to download or "Want try Atomic" link at the bottom. > > Google Search: Fedora > * Fedora Atomic "sub-link" (category link? don't know how they are > called) on first hit > * no Fedora Cloud on first page > > > IMHO: > * Even search for Fedora Cloud brings Atomic on top > * better information about Atomic then for cloud base (for vagrant use > case) > > Conclusion: i don't think downloads for cloud base are better because of > people searching find it better. > > > > > Is there any way to get download numbers over time? That would be very > > interesting. > > I think the future is containers. but right now most people are still > not ready to start full containerization. Another question is if people > are using vagrant with Atomic. I use it to run tests. if possible i run > tests in docker because of lower overhead - I would not use vagrant to > start an Atomic vm to run a container in it I think. > > - Thomas > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 09:27:42 -0500 > From: Dusty Mabe <du...@dustymabe.com> > Subject: Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas > To: cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: <8283ce62-a468-e2c7-2fd7-46424dbb5...@dustymabe.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > On 02/03/2017 09:19 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > > > > > Am 03.02.2017 um 14:41 schrieb Matthew Miller: > >> On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 09:43:47AM +0100, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >>> Also download numbers on atlas indicate more interest for cloud-base > >>> than atomic for vagrant. > >> Part of that might be self-reenforcing, as there haven't been enough > >> downloads of Atomic yet to bump it to the front page when you search > >> for "Fedora". > > Google Search: Fedora Atomic > > > > * (1st hit: www.projectatomic.io/) > > * 2nd hit: https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/ > > * click: download now > > * click: vagrant downloads > > * click: View downloads using vagrant tools > > > > Google Search: Fedora Cloud > > * (first hit: fedora atomic (https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/)) > > * 2nd hit: https://getfedora.org/de/cloud/download (redirect to > > https://alt.fedoraproject.org/de/cloud/) > > * no information about howto use with vagrant directly, only possiblity > > to download or "Want try Atomic" link at the bottom. > > > > Google Search: Fedora > > * Fedora Atomic "sub-link" (category link? don't know how they are > > called) on first hit > > * no Fedora Cloud on first page > > > > > > IMHO: > > * Even search for Fedora Cloud brings Atomic on top > > * better information about Atomic then for cloud base (for vagrant use > case) > > > > Conclusion: i don't think downloads for cloud base are better because of > > people searching find it better. > > > > I think what he was alluding to is that if you search for fedora on > Atlas [1] then you don't see atomic, which means that the cloud base > images could be getting selected because people don't know they are > there. This is because they are sorted by # of downloads, which is > fine. > > [1] https://atlas.hashicorp.com/boxes/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&; > sort=&provider=&q=fedora > > >> > >> Is there any way to get download numbers over time? That would be very > >> interesting. > > > > I think the future is containers. but right now most people are still > > not ready to start full containerization. Another question is if people > > are using vagrant with Atomic. I use it to run tests. if possible i run > > tests in docker because of lower overhead - I would not use vagrant to > > start an Atomic vm to run a container in it I think. > > > > I agree with you that running Atomic in Vagrant can be considered less > useful to some people than running a mutable OS in Vagrant. At least > for me, part of the reason to run something in Vagrant is because you > want to do something (install rpms, hack up storage, test something) that > you don't want to do on your host. If you aren't running containers > Atomic would not be interesting to you in a Vagrant box at this point. > > Dusty > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list -- cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to cloud-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of cloud Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 > ************************************ >
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