The documentation
(https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Grid) says
that the only release available to jsub is Trusty. It also says we
shouldn't run our jobs on Kubernetes (
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Kubernetes).

Can you clarify how we should run our jobs?

Thanks


On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Andrew Bogott <[email protected]>
wrote:

>     Tool-forge users can ignore this email, it only concerns VPS project
> owners.
>
>     Long ago, the Wikimedia Operations team made the decision to phase out
> use of Ubuntu servers in favor of Debian.  It's a long, slow process that
> is still ongoing, but in production Trusty is running on an ever-shrinking
> minority of our servers.
>
>     As Trusty becomes more of an odd duck in production, it grows harder
> to support in Cloud Services as well.  Right now we have no planned
> timeline for phasing out Trusty instances (there are 238 of them!) but in
> anticipation of that phase-out we'd like to discourage the addition of new
> Trusty hosts to the cloud.
>
>     Step one[1] is to prevent people from creating new Trusty images
> unless they really, really need them.  We would like to remove Trusty from
> the default available list of base images and make it available for new VMs
> only via special request on phabricator.  The questions for you are:
>
> 1) Would that change make your life a lot harder?
> 2) If yes, can you name a date after which it /won't/ make your life
> harder?
>
>     If the loss of Trusty doesn't worry you, feel free to ignore this
> email.  In the event of a silent (or relatively quiet) response, I'll pull
> Trusty from the default image list sometime in the next few weeks.
>
>
> - Andrew (+ the rest of the Cloud team)
>
>
> [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161899
>
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