"I don't need to have the emails but what if somebody w/o account at WP
would like to use this?"

They can create an account?

Tools should serve Wikimedia users, personally I don't see an account as
undue burden on them.

"Well, username is *also* a private information according the page
MarcoAurelio linked, so I would need to solve it anyway."

I assume any implementation of this tool will need some form of "account
creation" and the terms will be necessary,  but I do see list of users
signed up to the tool as not nearly as sensitive as a list of email
addresses associated with Wikimedia users.

Cheers,

Chico Venancio
Cloud Services Technical Support

Em 10 de fev de 2018 09:40, "Martin Urbanec" <[email protected]>
escreveu:

> Well, username is *also* a private information according the page
> MarcoAurelio linked, so I would need to solve it anyway. I don't need to
> have the emails but what if somebody w/o account at WP would like to use
> this?
>
> M.
>
> so 10. 2. 2018 v 13:37 odesílatel Francisco Venancio <
> [email protected]> napsal:
>
>> Martin,
>> Do you need the users' emails or sending them email messages enough?
>>
>> MediaWiki api could be used to send emails to users that have email set
>> in their preference.
>>
>> See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Emailuser
>>
>> Chico Venancio
>> Cloud Services Technical Support
>>
>> Em 10 de fev de 2018 09:27, "Martin Urbanec" <[email protected]>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>
>>
>> so 10. 2. 2018 v 13:23 odesílatel Guilherme Gonçalves <
>> [email protected]> napsal:
>>
>>> Hi Martin,
>>>
>>> I'm not authoritative on PII policies at all, but here's a couple of
>>> things that came to mind as I read your question.
>>>
>>> 2018-02-10 11:26 GMT+00:00 Martin Urbanec <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> To prevent this tool from spamming I of course require its confirmation
>>>> by accessing an URL with a random string (MD5 hash of user's email
>>>> *and* random number from 1 to 100; I mean, those two things are in one
>>>> hash).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does this mean the URL for a given email address can be guessed in at
>>> most 100 attempts by someone who doesn't control the address? I think you'd
>>> typically want to draw your random numbers from a much larger range, or use
>>> as token something that was encrypted or signed with a secret only your
>>> server knows. It would probably also make sense to make your URLs valid for
>>> only a certain time.
>>>
>>
>> *1000, but increased to 10 000 000, which should be big enough. I also
>> can use more qualit hash than MD5 which will slow it down even more.
>>
>>>
>>> However...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Should I stop with collecting mails at all and use some WMF-maintained
>>>> service for mass-emailing (mailman at lists.wikimedia.org maybe?) and
>>>> make the tool to just send an email to the list itself?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If creating a single mailing list is an option (for instance, you don't
>>> plan on customizing the emails per user), this seems like a very good way
>>> to go.
>>>
>>
>> It is, this just was the easiest way for me when I was writing the tool.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> This question came to my mind before creating, so I do appologize for
>>>> asking after programming.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Martin Urbanec
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