> On Oct 7, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Bryan Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > > This may actually be the root of some of your frustrations. Toolforge > is not meant to be a replacement for a development environment on your > local laptop or other server.
Hmmm. That's not the impression I got from reading what's available on wikitech. It's called a "developer account". Pages like https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portal:Toolforge/About_Toolforge <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portal:Toolforge/About_Toolforge> say things like, "If you already know these basics, then you are ready to start developing tools!" So, it sure sounds like it's supposed to be a development environment. And https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Developing_successful_tools <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Developing_successful_tools> says: > Pick the right development environment > If you will be doing heavy processing (e.g., compiles or tool test runs), > please use the development environment (dev.toolforge.org) instead of the > primary login host (login.toolforge.org) so as to help maintain the > interactive performance of the primary login host. which is at odds with your statement that it's not meant to be a development environment. Yes, I keep several tmux sessions nailed up. It makes life easier and I assumed it would be a very small impact on the system. As for: > a python process that appears to be some sort of TCP log event sync. That's exactly what it is. Tailing a NFS log file is not practical. I opened a phab ticket on this <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256426> which got triaged to a low priority. Fair enough, so I found a workaround. The process you're seeing is essentially a private syslog server I'm running. My k8s web server process logs to that, bypassing NFS. I don't need that running when I'm not actively debugging, so I'll shut it down now. It didn't seem like the kind of thing that would be imposing any significant load.
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